11/02/2016
Topic:
SPS Manager Bug
sl23
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I just clicked the Get apps online button for the SyMenu Suite, whilst this was in progress I switched to a custom MyApps suite. As the Get apps online was still in progress on the switch, it downloaded the latest apps for that suite into the MyApps suite. This could happen for any suite should you switch whilst downloading a different one.
Obviously this shouldn't happen and can only be sorted by manually deleting the SPS files in the faulty suite's folder. |
12/02/2016
Topic:
Request feature for "Get new apps SPS" window
sl23
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Remove the button - Report a broken SPS - and make SPS reviewer clickable to report problems/updates. |
13/02/2016
Topic:
SPS Manager Bug
sl23
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No problem, thanks for fixing them ;-) |
16/02/2016
Topic:
Future SyMenu version 5.01
sl23
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I like it exactly how it's shown. Good job Gian. |
17/02/2016
Topic:
Future SyMenu version 5.01
sl23
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@timrray +1 but as apps aren't added at any great rate I don't see this being too much of a problem.
@Gian I do think 5 days is enough |
17/02/2016
Topic:
Future SyMenu version 5.01
sl23
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I would like version number and path only as tooltip, is that possible? |
17/02/2016
Topic:
Select all apps for download/install
sl23
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You see Gian, a good reason to add WSCC to free you from responsibility of this app suite! ;-) |
18/02/2016
Topic:
Future SyMenu version 5.01
sl23
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That would be great, thanks. Lately I've wanted to check a few apps version numbers, as I have found useful on the PA.c menu from time to time. It is obviously easier to have a tooltip than keep opening the sps manager window. |
19/02/2016
Topic:
Select all apps for download/install
sl23
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Not a joke but a practical solution :-)
But, I didn't know about your personal interest and favouring the suite, that's fine, just thought it would help you regarding time used keeping them updated, etc.
I think I got a little lost, possibly due to the translation or me simply being an idiot! but I'm not really understanding your last paragraph at the beginning. You say about installing suites in their own folders, but they already are??? Would you mind elaborating further please.
Looking forward to next version, sounds fantastic! Thank you so much for providing such an innovative program. |
20/02/2016
Topic:
Select all apps for download/install
sl23
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Ah, I'm with you now! Just like PA.c menu where there are preset categories for each app. This was one thing I liked about their menu. But... I fear that here it's more difficult to get right, why? Let me explain...
I was looking through the SPS Manager list a while ago for some specific app, can't quite remember which now, so let's say for example photo editor. I click on the Category column and it lists apps in alphabetical order by Category. But I noticed some apps that did what I wanted were classified in a different category, slightly.
As I said, I can't remember what it was now, I think something to do with media, video or graphics. But the point is I had to look through the whole list anyway to find what I wanted. Oh! It may have been a movie catalogue software?
I think it would be better to categorise apps more simply but have plenty more options. Customisation as a category doesn't exist for example. There are several times when creating new sps files that I've struggled to find a category and had to pick the closest available. I find it odd that TPFC has so many categories missing! Simplifying them by offering only single layer categories would be better, maybe that's just my opinion though?
I find it easier to find stuff, directly without fiddling with two or three layers of the menu, which can be awkward at times when working quickly. Not a SyMenu problem, just a general menu problem. I have a single Category called File Management that encompasses Archivers, File Managers, File Unlockers, Recovery, Synchronisation/Backup software and even PortableFileAssociater. There isn't a long list here only 15 apps! So combining categories to a singular Parent doesn't create an issue, unless EVERY app! But should that be the case, I doubt users would stick with the defaults as they are now anyway. I know I wouldn't as they aren't always correct in my opinion. But that's just me! |
22/02/2016
Topic:
Future SyMenu version 5.01
sl23
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Whoa! I missed that last post!
That's great Gian, thanks |
25/02/2016
Topic:
Future SyMenu version 5.01
sl23
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One more thing regarding tooltips, specifically, Path. If a SyItem is located within the SyMenu/Program/Files folder, could the path be reduced to reflect that and just show from the suite folder and beyond? It would look tidier and be easier to read. |
27/02/2016
Topic:
Future SyMenu version 5.01
sl23
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Ok, I see your point. |
27/02/2016
Topic:
The SPS scripting engine
sl23
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Looking forward to this, thanks for your hard work, much appreciated ;-) |
01/03/2016
Topic:
Too Many Windows?
sl23
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Just wanted to start a discussion to see what other users thought and if Gian thinks it a good idea or not worth the hassle.
I may have mentioned in another post something similar, but this is an expansion of that thought.
I propose to combine the windows for SPS Manager, Configuration and Options. How? Well first thought is to create tabs on the existing Configuration window for Options and SPS Manager. Clicking these removes the configuration form and displays the necessary info for each of the other windows.
As the Menu is locked when these are open any changes aren't affected by operation. I expect this would be quite a job to accomplish, but maybe something to keep in mind for a future release? It would tidy up the whole experience. |
02/03/2016
Topic:
Select all apps for download/install
sl23
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You realise I'm talking about categories and not the search, yes?
Though I do see some relevance in category search, but I was referring to the option to install apps into categories as well as the search function. Reread and you might see what I'm getting at. It's not too important for me really but I just think the TPFC idea of categories is something that needs redoing. Their category list is not always clear and some apps become mislabelled because of it.
It's not just SPS where the search is at fault, it's every search engine! Because people tag things incorrectly it corrupts the search. Search IMDB for Thriller and see what I mean! The search engine is at fault as it doesn't realise you want to search for Thriller as a genre. A very simple example, but it elucidates the problem that search engines are nowhere near perfect.
Even everyday searches on the web give totally irrelevant results! If they can't get it right, how can anyone else?! GooglePlayStore is another try searching for something you only remember half the title of, you'll get a million result for completely irrelevant apps!
I hate search engines ever since XP! It took forever and hardly ever found what I wanted! |
03/03/2016
Topic:
Select all apps for download/install
sl23
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Everything changes, nothing is static. Everything is relative, no one is the same. Yet we need some kind of order. It comes down to choice, if we remain indecisive, we choose nothing.
From what I've seen in various other menus, double categories make it problematic. Your choice in creating boardgame as a category, IMHO, is not necessary. There aren't many free portable boardgame apps, so creating a category for it is unnecessary.
I think it better to have many singular categories but better defined, without being too specific. For example, my menu category for Disk contains stuff like ssd-z, partition wizard, Rufus, etc. I have an Audio category for anything that edits audio in any way, same for video. Then a Media category for playing media files, both audio and video. Graphics contains all editors and viewers. And so on.
I've used this method for around 6 years and never needed to adjust it. Before that I used the double category method similar to Liberkey's, but it's confusing and much more awkward when looking for apps within a menu structure.
I do still use double categories, but only for lesser used apps. Stuff like nir soft, and some system utilities.
TPFC's categories aren't too well thought out, in my view, how do you define a category for Pazera Free Audio/Video pack? Only media suffices, yet it's against the rules of my organisation causing me to forget it's location over time and hence relying on search which I never use. So I manually search! There are only three places for it to be it's pretty fast, so not much cause for concern. However, I only use it for its video apps so I put it in Video category so I know where to locate it. But it can't be classified this way.
So maybe my argument is null and void? I don't know. But there are always exceptions to rules.
The way I've set up categories make the most logical sense if you think about it, they're direct without requiring too much thought about locating apps. edited by sl23 on 03/03/2016 |
06/03/2016
Topic:
Too Many Windows?
sl23
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I thought it may be a rather large task, as such maybe not worth the hassle. However as a contributor to SPS it is often a pain in the ass having to close a window to regain control of SyMenu to be able to open another. And then, repeat the procedure to go back to the original window! If there's another solution, then I'd be happy with that.
I don't see a problem with a mixed menu. If it's a case of not letting certain users have rights to edit certain parts, then you could have options to password protect those tabs?
Consider something like IObit Uninstaller that has a list on the left where you choose what you wish to do. You could allow SyMenu to be be elevated to admin so that certain parts could be hidden for sensitive circumstances, just as you hide apps within the menu configuration form.
The other option which may be easier for you to implement and would solve the problem is to have links in each window for the other windows. So the SPS Manager would have the SPS Builder and Configuration links, SPS Builder would have links to SPS Manager and Configuration, and finally, Configuration would have links to SPS Builder and SPS Manager.
Now the question is sure to rise about users having access again. Well I repeat, you could allow these links to be hidden under those circumstances. If something is not installed then the links would not be shown for those unused forms. For example, If the SPS Builder was used on it's own it would check the location for SyMenu and if it exists the links would appear in the SPS Builder window for SPS Manager and Configuration. Should SPS Builder be installed on it's own without SyMenu, it would detect that and not show the links. And so on for the other windows...
So either combine or link them to allow access without having to close current windows. |
06/03/2016
Topic:
Select all apps for download/install
sl23
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Ok, ok, I submit to your impeccable logic!
Are you a vulcan?
However, I seriously disagree with the current TPFC constellation of categories edited by sl23 on 06/03/2016 |
08/03/2016
Topic:
SyMenu v5.01.5911 Update
sl23
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Thanks for the update, Great job
However, in SPS Manager, the colour for Updates has turned blue. The filter for Updates shows nothing, as I suppose due to Updates being classed as New? |