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9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Adding the default search patterns
Yes it is.
And it's even possible to reset the filters with the special button to go back to the initial ones.
Ok, so no work for me... good! Big Grin
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

ronen1n
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At first, I didn't know i came with some list by default so i suggested to add the filers that we see in the `?` icon
But it still possible to add the rest of them
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Adding the default search patterns
We are not understanding each other.
The list you are seeing is exactly what it is expected as a default.
So, what are you suggesting?
To change them?
To increase the number?
To delete anything?
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

ronen1n
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Oh, ok maybe i deleted them sometime and i don't remember
this is the default list i see
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Adding the default search patterns
I checked with a fresh SyMenu and it already works this way: the seven patterns are clickable and activate that same search.
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Adding the default search patterns
Isn't it already this way?? Is it a bug? I have to check it.
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

ronen1n
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We have 7 search patterns, but we need to write them down to search

I think that by default it will be better if all of them will be added like in the picture that we can click on them to search and don't have to write them down
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Adding the default search patterns
Excuse me but I can't understand what you are asking for.
The default filters for a freshly new SyMenu installation already include :update.
Are you suggesting adding :newest too?
Indeed the example filters (they are currently 7) are only a way to show you what you can do with the search, it's not a way to include the most useful searches.
Anyway I'm open to changing the default list if it's useful, but please let me understand better what you are suggesting.
9 days ago
Topic:
Adding the default search patterns

ronen1n
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Hi

I think more people will use the default search patterns if it will come by default and we won't have to write it to filter like the example below
This place is not used anyway and its easier and make more sense to remove (if someone don't like them) them then to add them

20 days ago
Topic:
Adding other repositories?

Gianluca
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Topic: Adding other repositories?
rjtemple wrote:
So in short I would need to:
1) compile programs as .SPS
2) host a site
3) put those .SPS files on the hosted site

Would this be an accurate understanding?


Not exactly. It's easier than this.

1) SPS is not a packer such as PAF or zip/7zip/rar solid archive, and it's neither a setup like InnoSetup or msi.
It's a structured description that tells SyMenu where to download the file, how to unpack it, and where to find the resulting executable. Plus it contains program description, license, and so on.
The burden to create something with PAF, setup, or whatever other system, is that you have to repack the program at every update. With SPS instead you just need to change some strings of text inside the SPS file itself.
You can find a lot of material to understand what a SPS is and naturally you can download the magic SPS Builder from SyMenu itself or from its own page (https://www.ugmfree.it/spsbuilder)

2) Easier. You don't need an entire website but some sort of web service, one endpoint, that returns json information. The json information can be dynamically created or fixed... so in the simpler scenario you need to publish somewhere a plain text file.

3) ... or in any kind of file hosting depending on how you want to distribute your suite.

rjtemple wrote:
Could the site used be something as simple as Dropbox?

The endpoint can be hosted anywhere, even in Dropbox if you link a direct URL and not the dropbox download page.

rjtemple wrote:
There are not many products that I cannot get through SyMenu...

Excuse me but there's a more direct way to have what you need in SyMenu. Probably this is the reason because we don't still have the custom suite feature. You can become an SPS editor for the main SyMenu suite.
The SyMenu suite is open to collaboration from everyone.

So you have to download the SPS Builder, try to understand how it works by consulting some existing SPS, fill your SPS, upload it through the SPS Builder.

When a new SPS from a fresh editor arrives in the system, I'll be notified and review the work, help the new editor to understand how SPS really works, eventually ask for corrections, and afterwards publish his work.

As I told you the custom suite is a feature not activated because it needs a lot of work so today the only way to publish something is through the main suite.

edited by Gianluca on 28/03/2025
20 days ago
Topic:
Adding other repositories?

rjtemple
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Hey Gianluca!

Thank you so much for this fantastic response. So in short I would need to:
1) compile programs as .SPS
2) host a site
3) put those .SPS files on the hosted site

Would this be an accurate understanding?

Could the site used be something as simple as Dropbox?

There are not many products that I cannot get through SyMenu. The ones I would like, but cannot find are:
  • Don'tPanic
  • HijackThis
  • PortExpert
  • Trellix Stinger
  • uTorrent

I agree that SyMenu is 1000% better than PA. Thank you for this amazing product and thank you for your support!
21 days ago
Topic:
Adding other repositories?

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Adding other repositories?
Thank you for your question, it allows me to delve into SyMenu's history.


At one point, I added a plugin to download apps from PortableApps.com, naively believing that a community promoting openness and freeware would genuinely embrace those principles.
However, the PA community is an unusual case because it's owned by an individual and operates as a private company, despites the license telling us something different. The boss wants the PA apps to be available only via the PA launcher, otherwise, you can fu**k off.
Despite giving credit, backlinks, and visibility to PA.com I was accused of being a thief because I used to waste PA's bandwidth (???WTF???). I was discredited, accusing me of distributing software against their license (???##!!). PA's founder, smiling John, embedded code in every PAF app to block execution if launched through SyMenu. Since the malicious code was in the packer for PAF this sabotage extended to apps like OpenOffice, even though portable OpenOffice is packed and distributed by its own foundation, not by PA.
For these reasons, I decided to move on and remove the plugin.

Meanwhile, SPS suites were evolving. Initially, there were three of them: SyMenu Suite, NirSoft, and Sysinternals. It became soon clear to me that thematic suites, focused on specialized areas, were more practical than publisher-specific suites. And in fact integrating Sysinternals into the main suite proved beneficial. NirSoft still remains separate, but merging it into the main suite is a thing I have to do in the future.

Thematic suites instead open exciting possibilities: a forensic suite, a school tools suite, an office suite, or even a suite dedicated to games. But, managing a single generic suite is already overwhelming, which has kept me from pursuing thematic suites further.

That said, I introduced the concept of custom suites for users, that is probably the thing you want to know.

Custom suites are simple: users can define an online endpoint for their SPS library, similar to SyMenu's endpoint.
Your endpoint might look like:
https://www.mypersonalwebsite.com/getSPSSuite
Once the endpoint is entered in SyMenu, the system queries it to retrieve suite details, including its name, description, download links, and login requirements (if restricted to certain users).

As you can see, with this kind of feature, I have no control over these custom suites.
For example, if someone uses SyMenu to distribute pirated software I can't prevent it. Absurdly if smiling John decides to use SyMenu to distribute PA because SyMenu is way better than PA launcher, I can't prevent it Big Grin Big Grin It'd be hilarious!
However, this lack of control isn’t why the custom suite is still inactive. The real reason is simple: there's been no demand for this feature, despite its potential to push SPS technology further and I need to work with someone to put it in line because it's huge and complex.
21 days ago
Topic:
Adding other repositories?

rjtemple
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I recall seeing somewhere online that you could also add other apps from PortableApps.com and a few other repositories.

Has this functionality been removed, or is there a method for adding them? I poked around the manual and forums a bit and haven't come up with anything yet.

Thanks!
18/03/2025
Topic:
Pin to Desktop

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Pin to Desktop
No, it isn't.
I understand what you desire: a thing visible only when the desktop portion where it's placed is visible.
I fear it's not possible because the sense of the pin is to always show the menu, no matter what. And BTW, in my opinion the pin thing is pretty useless... I don't even know why I've implemented it.

Anyway I have a workaround for you.
If you'd have the menu on the desktop level, you should make at least one action to make it visible. I mean you always need to do something like minimize a window or click on the Windows shortcut WIN+M or switch tabs to the desktop. In your note, you have to do a click with the mouse or to press some keys on the keyboard.
So you don't use the SyMenu shortcut to make the contextual menu appear?
It's equally a single action (default CTRL+F3 but it's customizable) and you make the menu appear in a blink of an eye.
Or if you are a mouse type, you can click on the always visible system tray icon and the menu appears the same.
What do you think?
18/03/2025
Topic:
Pin to Desktop

Supernaut
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Supernaut
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Topic: Pin to Desktop
Hello

On Symenu in the Upper Left Corner there is a Small Pin Icon When Clicked it Pins the Menu to the Desktop.
The SyMenu Always Stays on Top of Other Programs is there a Way to Keep it Pinned to the Desktop..
But Not Always on Top of Other Programs?

Thanks!
Supernaut
06/03/2025
Topic:
Problems with installation

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Problems with installation
Ok even if you have successfully installed SyMenu I don't recommend using that folder the same.
If you want to use it the same, the procedure is easier than what you did.
You can take ownership of the C:\Program Files\SyMenu folder or take "only" full control on it with your user even if MS discourages this kind of action.
06/03/2025
Topic:
Problems with installation

SvenH
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Yes, I suspected it had to do with permissions so I tried with administrator rights, but it was the same result.

I previously had SyMenu in C:\Program Files so it should work now too. But I found a note I made earlier that it is not possible to install directly to C:\Program Files but it must first be done to another location, after which the files can be moved to C:\Program Files. I did that and then copied the Config and Icons folders there that I had backed up. So now it works.
06/03/2025
Topic:
Problems with installation

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Problems with installation
It's really strange. SyMenu works exactly in scenarios like this.

What is the content of your [SyMenu]\Config folder?

I saw you choose to put SyMenu in C:\Program Files... You are really brave because that folder is restricted for security reasons. So it could be a problem of security (you don't have full access to the SyMenu subfolder for example). My advice: D:\SyMenu (no need to do anything after a reinstallation).
05/03/2025
Topic:
Problems with installation

SvenH
SvenH
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Hi!

After reinstalling Windows, I am now going to reinstall SyMenu. However, it is not successful as I get an error message during installation, see attachment. The Config folder is missing. What should I do?
28/02/2025
Topic:
Batch import crashing

mmlmrx
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mmlmrx
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Topic: Batch import crashing
Ahh, okay - yeah, that makes sense. No worries - I know it doesn't make sense to add features if not many people will use them. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some easier way of doing things.

Thanks again! :-)

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