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01/05/2017 Topic: New SyMenu beta version 5.11 Gianluca Administrator	jason wrote: Any reason the en-US.txt was dropped? Every new release, both the beta and the final versions, doesn't have the en-US.txt file. It's created on the first run. BTW Jason I don't recommend you to use a beta version for a GEGeek release because it can have bugs and mostly the program lacks of updated translation in the other languages.
01/05/2017 Topic: The reorganized SPS Manager Gianluca Administrator	sl23 wrote: if for example, I set the auto-update to 1day, When does the check occur? On first startup of that day? Then it gets ignored until the next day? Yes, with that interval, it only occurs of the first startup of every day. sl23 wrote: Didn't auto check on start up though! But did check other suites when I clicked their tabs Can you explain me better? How do you know it didn't check the main suite? Have you checked the file in the _Cache folder?
02/05/2017 Topic: The reorganized SPS Manager Gianluca Administrator	VVV_Easy_Symenu wrote: Excuse me, Gian, but the UAC shield over the icon ¡works now in the beta! Well I did nothing for this.... not intentionally anyway. Good boy SyMenu, it's starting to fix bugs by itself
02/05/2017 Topic: The reorganized SPS Manager Gianluca Administrator	sl23 wrote: I'll check this tomorrow, to be sure. I know it didn't check as the three green dots didn't show up until I clicked the Update button. Also, once the update had been checked, there were new updates available. Probably you've already checked for updates before. The beta doesn't make any difference among your check or its own check. For example if your interval is three days and you daily force the check, the auto check never happens. sl23 wrote: Not sure if this is just me, but I think it would be more ergonomical if the Update, Apply and those other buttons would be best suited between the Search functions and the Bin and Exit buttons. I will do some experiments with these settings. sl23 wrote: One other thing, the info tip for the Update button say this function is per Suite, but it seems to act globally as it doesn't change when you switch suite tabs. It's impossible. The update is per suite. Maybe it's too fast for the smaller suites to be perceived.
02/05/2017 Topic: symenu autostart: very minor but irritating issue Gianluca Administrator	Ok thanks for the feedback. Anyway I think I'll put your report in the TODO list the same because it could be useful to launch SyMenu at login in admin mode too.
02/05/2017 Topic: The reorganized SPS Manager Gianluca Administrator	sl23 wrote: I've just opened the SPS Manager expecting it to auto-check for updates, but it hasn't, am I right in thinking that is how it works? Yes, perfectly. Is your interval slider set to 1 day? Otherwise your check will happen when the interval is reached. If it is, please go to the _Cache folder and check the name of the only file available. It should be 20170502.sps.zip. sl23 wrote: If this function is per Suite, shouldn't the slider change to display the relevant info? Sorry I misunderstood your question before. The definition update is per suite, but the slider interval is a common setting. It was too heavy to implement a "per suite" attribute in this version. Maybe for the next? Or probably I will join the suites in a single one modifying the search filters as we already agreed. Who knows!?! sl23 wrote: [...] maybe an option to remove them [the grid lines]? Probably an option is more consistent than your other proposals but remember that I want to change everything in the SPS Manager design. So again who knows what the future will be? sl23 wrote: One other thing that really is annoying, I may have mentioned this before, when a tooltip appears under the cursor, you can no longer scroll and have to move the mouse in order to carry on. Obviously this is only when the names are truncated, but gets in the way of smooth functionality of the app. This is strange. Usually the tooltips appear near the mouse pointer and not below it to avoid these kind of unwanted interactions. I'm able to reproduce your issue but I'm not responsible for this. It seems the tooltip for the grid sometimes decides to appear in the wrong place. It's really annoying. I will try to workaround this behavior but don't wait for a prompt resolution.
02/05/2017 Topic: The reorganized SPS Manager Gianluca Administrator	sl23 wrote: Indeed it does, but that's because I had to force check. Yes I set it to 1 Day. How exactly does this work? Does it check date changes or it is timer based, thereby waiting 24hrs to recheck? It simply checks the system creation date and last modified date of the _Cache file. I have to check both the dates to avoid useless downloads but this is another story. Try this: - exit from SyMenu - go to the _Cache folder and change the creation and the last modified date for the file 20170502.sps.zip. The two date must be older than 24h from now - if you want to be really sure that the update happens, you can change the file name too, but it is unrelated with the automatic update process, but you'll see the file name changed again in 20170502.sps.zip - now run SyMenu and go to the SPS Manager sl23 wrote: I am confused though, you say that the slider is global, so how do you disable a single Suite? That lovely heart icon has disappeared! The heart was introduced because of the annoying message at SyMenu startup but now you are free from these message (nobody noticed??? ). If you enter the SPS Manager and click the tab of another suite, please, you have to endure the update definition process. Otherwise what are you doing inside that suite? sl23 wrote: Would it be simpler to just check on startup as most apps do? Or is this overkill? It's the future! But I have to implement a lot of things before. And a lot of options to allow the users to choose how, what, where, doing the update. Remember that it's not a simple application update. Here we have a definitions update that can cause a multiple programs update. Maybe you should avoid the check in certain sensitive environment (SyMenu is portable), probably you prefer to check and update on a certain network rather than one other. The users have the right to choose everything during this process. sl23 wrote: do you have any definitive plan yet? Or even a rough plan? We already spoke about that. I have few ideas but really confused sl23 wrote: For starters, is the SPS Manager going to be web based like Google, or app based, like how it is now, just implemented differently? It'll be a mixed approach, an app like it is today, without an offline content. The content (the app descriptions) will be downloaded from the web according to the user search. Only when the user want to install something the full definition set for those app will be downloaded. sl23 wrote: Is it possible to place the Tooltip where you want? If so, May I suggest above-right of the cursor. Then it's out of the way and can be seen unobscured. Who knows...? For the context menu I rewrited completely the tooltip component because the original MS tooltip really sucks. Probably I'll have to re-write it again for the SPS Manager...
04/05/2017 Topic: The reorganized SPS Manager Gianluca Administrator	@sl23 Your suggestion to move the update command buttons below the search filters was good. You'll find the new design on the final version. Another thing. When I explained the criteria the auto update is based on, I realized that the 24h interval is puzzling. A user can't understand why yesterday the check happened and today not, with an interval of 1 day. So in the final version you'll find a simpler rule: the auto update count the interval in days and not in hours. Pros. The auto update is easier to understand and master. Cons. With an interval of one day, you run SyMenu at 23:59 and go to SPS Manager. The auto update starts. But if you return to the SPS Manager after midnight the auto update will start again. Well... who cares... if someone is annoyed by this behavior, go to bed before midnight instead of using SyMenu. Jokes aside I don't want to make it more complex because at least now the rule are clear.
05/05/2017 Topic: The reorganized SPS Manager Gianluca Administrator	sl23 wrote: Previously when clicking an item lower in the list it would open the app info section, also, the clicked item appeared at the top of the window as it would've been hidden by the app info covering it. Now it doesn't move to the top of the window and instead remains hidden, making you scroll down to see it. Is this intended behaviour now? Not at all. I'll fix it don't worry. sl23 wrote: when viewing your own Suite's, the Refresh button changes function and becomes a 'Recheck this Suite's sps files' button You are perfectly right! I'll put in the final version. Thank you for the suggestion. edited by Gianluca on 05/05/2017
09/05/2017 Topic: Displaying the location from search Gianluca Administrator	You can enable the tooltip including the path element. In the tooltip you can see the full path. https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#Advanced_menu_Options_Menu
15/05/2017 Topic: Desktop icons Gianluca Administrator	This activity breaks one of the golden SyMenu rules: never write anything outside the program folders, the user folders, and the temp folders. I understood that you intend SyMenu has to clean up everything at exits, but this is a risky path because SyMenu could exit in a not linear way too. Think about what happens if you kill SyMenu from the Task Manager, or if it is closed because of the OS shut down. In other words, the risk is SyMenu leaves behind the dynamic icons on your desktop. On the other hand, the idea likes me too much to give up so easily. I think that almost every problem could be solved, making the dynamic shortcuts recognizable. What do you think if I use the Comment field to tag every dynamic shortcut? In this way, you can even create your own shortcuts linked to program under SyMenu control and those shortcuts will remain active even when SyMenu closes because they are not tagged since you created them manually. The dynamic shortcuts, recognized by the tag, can be instead deleted when SyMenu closes and, further, SyMenu doesn't need to create them again if already present and left behind because of an error. Tagging the shortcuts allow SyMenu to interact only with its own ones. Think about two SyMenu version that coexists in the same machine. Every version must be able to manage its own shortcuts without interferences if every version tags its shortcut in a different way. It's only a draft but it seems working. What do you think?
16/05/2017 Topic: New SyMenu version 5.11 Gianluca Administrator	And finally the new version is out. The most important news is naturally the completely redrew SPS Manager. I hope the new approach could become soon familiar and easy to use. Now it is surely more consistent and the definition automatic update is so cool. My advice is to calibrate it to one day interval. If you have feedback, ideas, or whatever let me know! Enjoy.
17/05/2017 Topic: Next version breaking change Gianluca Administrator	Hi all. I released the new version two days ago but the project must go on so I have a question for you. Is there anyone using the Url attribute inside a container? Well I have to admit that I absolutely don't remember why I introduced this (senseless) feature. The only track I found is here https://www.ugmfree.it/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=60#post241 Since with the next version I will introduce a great feature that'll improve the container usefulness, I need to refactor it and the Url attribute probably will be wiped out, unless someone found a smart way to use it...
17/05/2017 Topic: Next version breaking change Gianluca Administrator	Not at all. I want to remove the attribute URL from the SyContainers https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SyContainer
18/05/2017 Topic: Issue with the latest update of symenu Gianluca Administrator	Hi. I can't reproduce the bug. Is there a log file named "error[date].log" on your SyMenu root folder? If you find it, you should send it to me for further check. Thank you.
19/05/2017 Topic: Issue with the latest update of symenu Gianluca Administrator	Please don't uninstall and reinstall SyMenu, it would be useless because SyMenu is not really installed and doesn't suffer from all the issues you can get with the traditional programs (registry jam, dependencies loss, configuration corruption, and so on). And, at least this time, Windows is definitely not the problem . I tried to install the entire NirSoft suite, more than 300 programs, and I was not able to reproduce the bug. But evenly a strange thing happened. After the first program installation, SyMenu needed to reload its entire program list and it took a lot. During the reloading, the download manager window froze and flickered. You instead experienced a complete window disappearance and tried to click on the underlying SPS Manager. Probably this caused the crash. I will investigate on the freeze and flicker glitches, but if you are able to reproduce the problem again, can you make a test for me, please? You should avoid clicking on the program window when the download manager locks and disappears. Leave SyMenu alone and see if the little window comes back to live after a while or if the program crash the same.
19/05/2017 Topic: Check if running on Update Gianluca Administrator	SyMenu already checks if an app is running and just in case it refuses to update. In your installation report window you should get this information.
19/05/2017 Topic: Check if running on Update Gianluca Administrator	Probably you misunderstood the message because it is something like this: "The action can't be completed because of the unavailability of enough disk space, a lack of permission, or a running program." If instead you didn't receive a message like this it was probably a bug.
22/05/2017 Topic: Issue with the latest update of symenu Gianluca Administrator	It's definitely not a waste of time. Probably it was an issue related to FS authorization. I can't even imagine that a lack of authorization can cause the SPS Manager crashes. I have to think about a solution for this.
31/05/2017 Topic: searching not searching Gianluca Administrator	Hi Jason. SyMenu search tool, doesn't search among all the folders and files under its root folder (in your case GEGeek_Toolkit) but it can search files only among the indexed folders. Let's try this. You have to add a logical item called Linked folder and point it to your root folder or better to a subfolder such as .\ProgramFiles\AV Uninstallers\AV Uninstall Tools\Tools Now you have a logical item that maps a part of your file system, browsable from inside SyMenu. But for now this element is only browsable in dynamic mode from the context menu, it means folder by folder. If you want its content is fully searchable instead, you have to flag the linked folder as Searchable (it's one of the flag available for this element). Now the entire content of your folder is indexed and appears in the SyMenu search. Remember that searching among files and searching among logical items are two different tasks for SyMenu. So you have to instruct SyMenu to search in FS ( see this paragraph in the manual https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SearchItems4 ). Why this kind of distinction? To speed up the search and grant a dynamic retrieving of new files.