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28/09/2020
Topic:
Translation of Control Panel Applets

Marsu
Marsu
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Thanks for your answer,
Useful - but definitely not important. Is not worth any special effort.
28/09/2020
Topic:
Translation of Control Panel Applets

Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Topic: Translation of Control Panel Applets
Hi,
Unfortunately not.


I've currently linked more than 50 control panel tools and I don't want to overburd the translators with this bunch of labels too. They already have a lot to manage.

Anyway if a certain number of users ask for it, I can create a parallel way to allow this private translation. But I need to know this will be a really useful feature.
27/09/2020
Topic:
Translation of Control Panel Applets

Marsu
Marsu
Posts: 9
Hi,

Can I translate the Control Panel Applets?



Thank you.
05/09/2020
Topic:
Feature request - Hide unwanted apps

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Feature request - Hide unwanted apps
Ok, let me be clearer. Beside my opinion on this kind of method, and it's not positive, the real problem is that I'm focused on the search itself not on the customization of the suite view.

If you think about the Play store or the Apple store they both works on searching not on hiding and the two concepts are completely opposite.
Who am I to think I'm smarter than the big ones?
05/09/2020
Topic:
Feature request - Hide unwanted apps

nerdweed
nerdweed
Posts: 5
I didn't ask for automated hiding here. A user would himself mark as not interested

Examples:
Not interested in seeing Q-Dir x86 as already installed x64
Not interested in ZSoft Uninstaller as its not updated since 2010
Not interested in Y for xxx reason

This will all be manual filter.

Again, I don't intend that to go and hide each and every application that I don't plan to install currently, but if there is something obvious that I would never want to install, it would be good to hide it someway.
03/09/2020
Topic:
Feature request - Hide unwanted apps

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1010
Topic: Feature request - Hide unwanted apps
Hi,
I don't think it is a good approach to the problem.
What if the x86 version is the only version available of a certain program?

How do you know that a program has been abandoned?
What you are implying is that a user analyzes every single program in the suite and hide the unwanted program one by one.
It's not a realistic scenario. I don't doubt you would do that but I think you'd be the only one.


But, I agree with the fact that we have too much programs to manage and the filtering tools I'm offering are quite inadequate to this huge number.
IMHO the solution is to change the way a user examine the list.
A better search engine would help.

I should implement the "not" option: "editor -metapad" (search for all the program with the word editor in the name, description, category except for those ones with the metapad word in it).
Another useful option should be the tagged search: "description:editor -name:metapad" (search for all program with editor in description, except for the one called metapad).

And others filters...

But the game changer will be the possibility to save a custom search.

This way you can create various buttons with your preferred filter set.

I won't deceive anyone... it's a huge job and even if it's a top priority one I don't know when I'll be able to build that.
02/09/2020
Topic:
Feature request - Hide unwanted apps

nerdweed
nerdweed
Posts: 5
Hi,

Can you please add a feature to hide some apps which users won't be interested in.


Example - Users would want to hide x86 apps when x64 is installed. Users may want to hide softwares which have been abandoned or simply not interested in.

I would imagine this as an additional column Hide in the Get New Apps window. Users would check it to a hide an app and whenever the window is opened next, it will show only those apps which don't have this tick box checked. There can be a button to Show/Hide hidden apps.

edited by nerdweed on 02/09/2020
31/08/2020
Topic:
3 new Apps

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: 3 new Apps
A fast review.

  • Program name - According with the author web site it should be WuMgr, not Wumgr
  • Publisher web site - In case of a web site that contains more than one software I usually prefer the program page. But the WuMgr page is empty (???) https://xanasoft.com/windows-update-manager/ so in this case is good to maintain https://xanasoft.com/
  • Main exe names - Here we have two issues.
    1) the path is relative so you have to write wumgr.exe without any path, because our executable is contained inside the root folder
    2) the logical name should be meaningful for our users because it will be the name they'll see in SyMenu. In this case WuMgr and not wumgr.exe
  • SPS Program report - Nope. It's your email or web contact form. Our users report here problem with the SPS not with the program

What's next?

You have to test the package pressing Test SPS online or Test SPS Local if you already downloaded the package.
If everything go well, SPS Builder check the package among VirusTotal.com

If this step goes well too you have to press Save in UGM.
Tah dah! Finished.
After that I receive a notification about your new SPS and make a full review. If everything is OK, your SPS will be published.

You don't need to do nothing by hand, SPS Builder does the job for you.
31/08/2020
Topic:
3 new Apps

fsr37
fsr37
Posts: 3
fsr37
fsr37
Posts: 3
Topic: 3 new Apps
Pb was SPS Program Report... this field is for users to contact person who uploaded the file? ... using mailto:report@suitehomepage,com I managed to validate and dl to test folder, what should I do next? i need to unpack, create folder etc

edited by fsr37 on 31/08/2020
31/08/2020
Topic:
3 new Apps

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: 3 new Apps
So your troubles came from the search. Ok. Thank you.


fsr37 wrote:
I think this is OK. You mean by using SPS Builder? I read your posts and tried to save one app but I couldnt validate.

What fields avoid the validation?

I have to write a proper manual for the SPS Builder before or after.... smile

fsr37 wrote:
Yea I know there are other tabbed text editors but I find this one very useful and have been using this since I use Windows. Right now I am W10 1909 and it runs without any problems, they havent updated it in a whyle but they did updated it when it was necessary.

In this case it's not a problem if a program is old but good and above all working on the last systems.
31/08/2020
Topic:
3 new Apps

fsr37
fsr37
Posts: 3
fsr37
fsr37
Posts: 3
Topic: 3 new Apps
Thank you for reply.

Gianluca wrote:

I'm very interested in knowing what confused you about the UI to improve its easy of use, above all for newbies. If you want to tell me anything about that it'll be very useful.



I started to use Symenu a couple of yrs ago because I wanted to have a Suite that also updated Sysinternals and Nirsoft utilities. But in the beggining I didnt use many Symenu apps because I did not new many of them and I also use Liberkey. Right now I manage the 1500 apps by filtering by name & category. I don't use description so much (which is checked by default). I also use status to check new and updated apps. I guess Symenu has a lot of options and a bit of a learning curve, to learn how to customize it one needs to go into options and config options (sort items by name, move apps between category, hide "excess categories" from main menu).


Gianluca wrote:

Regarding your request, when a user propose to add some programs, I usually invite him to do that by himself.

SyMenu suite is an open suite and every user can contribute to improve it.



I think this is OK. You mean by using SPS Builder? I read your posts and tried to save one app but I couldnt validate.


Gianluca wrote:


BTW KeyNote NF seems to be abandoned (last beta release 2017, last major release 2015). It's not a good program to add.
PDFSam could be a good one instead, and the same is for WUmgr.


Yea I know there are other tabbed text editors but I find this one very useful and have been using this since I use Windows. Right now I am W10 1909 and it runs without any problems, they havent updated it in a whyle but they did updated it when it was necessary.

Maybe i would also propose an alternative to Wumgr, MS official show/hide buggy updates - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026726/windows-10-hide-updates-or-driver-updates

edited by fsr37 on 31/08/2020
31/08/2020
Topic:
3 new Apps

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Topic: 3 new Apps
Dear fsr37,
Welcome to the community.

I'm very interested in knowing what confused you about the UI to improve its easy of use, above all for newbies. If you want to tell me anything about that it'll be very useful.

Regarding your request, when a user propose to add some programs, I usually invite him to do that by himself.

SyMenu suite is an open suite and every user can contribute to improve it.

Naturally we have trusted users that are in full control of all the process and untrusted users that are strictly controlled and need approval for every submission but the system works well and, after a while, the untrusted users can be promoted and become autonomous.


BTW KeyNote NF seems to be abandoned (last beta release 2017, last major release 2015). It's not a good program to add.
PDFSam could be a good one instead, and the same is for WUmgr.

So why don't you try that by yourself? I'm available to help you to understand the entire process.
29/08/2020
Topic:
3 new Apps

fsr37
fsr37
Posts: 3
fsr37
fsr37
Posts: 3
Topic: 3 new Apps
Thank you for this app. I have been using it for a while and i like it very much. In the beggining I was a little confused with UI but now is OK. I would like to request a couple of free apps that I use & dont have auto-update & distribution is very poor


Tabbed notebook with RichText editor, multi-level notes and strong encryption — https://github.com/dpradov/keynote-nf/releases

PDFsam, a desktop application to extract pages, split, merge, mix and rotate PDF files — https://github.com/torakiki/pdfsam/releases

WUmgr Windows update managemetn tool for windows 10 — https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr/releases
10/08/2020
Topic:
Strange behavior of the about splash screen

Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Topic: Strange behavior of the about splash screen
Indeed the form is really buggy.

The ESC buttons doesn't work if it loses the focus. For that I think I'll implement a better solution: I can close the form when it loses the focus too.

This way will be impossible to get stuck.
09/08/2020
Topic:
Strange behavior of the about splash screen

lupusbalo
lupusbalo
Posts: 66
Obvious! ESC is perfect and works (as with most of apps S&M Abuse )!
I don't even understand why I bother you with that!
don't waste your time, so sorryupsetupset
JL
07/08/2020
Topic:
Strange behavior of the about splash screen

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Strange behavior of the about splash screen
Well you can close the form About with the ESC button (if you have the focus on it).

Or if you are really desperate you can click on any of the link available there.

Anyway I'm perfectly opened to any suggestions because, you are right, if you lose the focus the exit process become mazy.


What should be the right way to exit from an About windows?

Not a button please!
06/08/2020
Topic:
Strange behavior of the about splash screen

lupusbalo
lupusbalo
Posts: 66
THX for new version smile
I must say I hadn't see the new version until today.
So I checked using the "about" (from menu in the floating icon)
(incidentally I'm up to date wink )
Then surprisingly I'stuck there : no way to close it, floating icon not responsive
I have to exit from the notification area

Same thing each time
Doesn't seem vital here, told you just in case....

Jean-Louis

edited by lupusbalo on 06/08/2020

edited by lupusbalo on 06/08/2020
03/08/2020
Topic:
New SyMenu version 6.12

Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Topic: New SyMenu version 6.12
Dear SyMenu users,

The new version is now available for everyone to download.
The full changelog is available on the download page.


As usual, I take advantage of this post, to explain the most obscure, strange, or inexplicable features delivered with the new version.

Why do I remove the option to choose the SPS definition update interval?
Because I was tired of investigating issues caused by outdated app definitions.

It's like an AV software company that is asked to explain why their software didn't protect a computer when the user has outdated definitions... senseless huh!

From this version, whenever you start SyMenu, you allow the program to check for the app definitions.

The automatic check happens once a day, but, as usual you can force it to happen more, pressing the special button.

There is a way to completely disable the app definition check but, if you need it, please contact me in private because I need to know what reason you get.

If there are particular scenarios where this block is really senseful, I can implement a public option to freely disable the check.

Enjoy.
27/07/2020
Topic:
Deeply Nested Folder Structure

sl23
sl23
Posts: 235
That looks like a simple solution. Am I right in thinking you start SyMenu with a shortcut with these as arguments? Or a batch file?

So what you're saying is that it's easy to change the location wrt the paths to apps, but moving them is a major hassle? But if the option to move this path is in place, then it's simply a matter of instructing those without knowledge how to move the relevant app folders to the new location, yes?

Those who can't do this, will only have a default installation. e.g. they d/l SyMenu and simply install apps through the SyMenu Updater. This means only two folders need moving, Nirsoft and SyMenuSuite. Perhaps the DirLister app could list the folder within the afore mentioned ones, and that could be used as a basis for moving?

Or perhaps, could SyMenu be expanded to locate the *.sps.version files in the ProgramFiles folder as well as the current default location?
To me, it seems simple, but I imagine it may be too much hassle and maybe a direction you don't want to go. That's fair enough, no problem. smile

EDIT: I just checked DirLister and found it can be set to list only the folders found within a specified directory non-recursively. This list could then be used in a batch or something to move them to the new locale.


edited by sl23 on 27/07/2020
27/07/2020
Topic:
Deeply Nested Folder Structure

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Deeply Nested Folder Structure
The command line will be documented in the manual as usual.

You could operate this way:
- quit SyMenu
- move the SPSSuite folder wherever you want
- run SyMenu with the command line. Something like these:

symenu.exe -xx".\NewFolder"
symenu.exe -xx".\ProgramFiles"

symenu.exe -xx"..\..\NewFolder"
symenu.exe -xx"x:\\NewFolder"

Unfortunately you have to execute SyMenu with the same command from that moment on because the default SPSSuite folder remains the same.
Anyway, if the option will be strongly adopted, I can add a custom option in the configuration to remap the folder without the command line.


Regarding your curiosity, all the programs in the SPSSuite have a relative path so the solution should be to change the old relative path (not with a batch but with SyMenu itself naturally). But the problem won't be this one... the real problem will be to physically move GB of data from the SPSSuite folder to the new folder. The process is long, heavy, subject to errors, to interruptions, needs to be resumable... it's too much...

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