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03/03/2017
Topic:
Managing shortcuts in SyMenu.

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
BTW if your program works well and you want to share it with the community you can publish it in the SyMenu Suite.
We already have two programs dedicated to SyMenu from our fantastic user VVV_Easy_Symenu: the SyMenu Orphan Icons Cleaner and the SyMenu Published App Track.
03/03/2017
Topic:
During Green Blinking Light, SyMenu Unresponsive

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
You are using the first beta for version 5.10. And this version is buggy. Download the freshest beta and your issue will disappear.
03/03/2017
Topic:
Automatic configuration backup when i leave Symenu

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
You are right. I forgot how it works... SyMenu is almost too big for me smile

Usually when a user suggests a special feature I put it in the forum to test the community reaction. We already are in the forum so let's wait for the community feedback.

In the meanwhile my opinion is that this feature is useless for the great majority of users.
SyMenu doesn't implement any user manager because it's a file system based program, so the file system security is enough for almost every needs.

Your need instead is very peculiar.
You have three admins but two of them have a minor power.... it's strange.

Can't you synchronize among you?
IMHO the program options modification is a really rare activity and once you choose the theme, the events, the general structure and a few other things you've done.
The items modification instead happens very frequently and you could have collision problems here too. So the synchronization is essential to avoid the risk to loose configured items. And this scenario is much more serious than the one you are trying to avoid.
04/03/2017
Topic:
SPS Manager

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
Hi guys.
I perfectly agree with VVV_Easy_Symenu: the new features must slow down and the entire program has to consolidate. Both from the point of view of its popularity and from the point of view of its reliability.
I don't know if you noticed but this 5.10 version has got two betas and I scheduled the release after the mid of March. This is a strange timing for the usual SyMenu release pace but I need to consolidate and above all I need to test it very well.
In 2016 I released 11 versions.
In 2015 16 versions.
It's really impossible to maintain a high quality level with so many releases. The right number should be 5-6 per year and with the next one we already are at the 4th. I work much hard... smile

The request from sl23 are all correct but I don't know if I will work again with the current SPS Manager. Before spending more time on it I would like to study a completely different approach and you already know what my idea is.
Last thing. IMHO the multiple progress bar are useless without the multithreading and, VVV_Easy_Symenu perfectly explained, how complex the code becomes with this kind of approach but I agree that it would be great to have it in SPS Manager and PAT.
04/03/2017
Topic:
During Green Blinking Light, SyMenu Unresponsive

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
Here.

https://www.ugmfree.it/Forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=473
11/03/2017
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
It's normal because SyMenu is not signed.I should get a certificate to sign it.
12/03/2017
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
Download the beta, unpack it, copy the main executable in your SyMenu folder changing its name from SyMenu.exe to SyMenu.beta.exe or something similar.
The two versions will works without any problem side by side. The only thing to follow is to not execute them at the same time.
13/03/2017
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
@Jason
You have a tooltip on every entry configurable to show the itemd locations.

@lupusbalo
Yes usually the trick works but with certain versions the configuration files are changed so you can't retiurn back to the older version.
13/03/2017
Topic:
Adding PortableApps.com Menu to SyMenu

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
After what PA.com is doing against SyMenu? No thanks. In the past I was for integration, now no more.
Read here and then if you like, please comment
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/86399/why-does-the-libreoffice-portable-version-act-as-a-proprietary-software/
15/03/2017
Topic:
Adding PortableApps.com Menu to SyMenu

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
Process Monitor from Sysinternals does this https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuSuiteSysinternals.aspx?pr=Process+Monitor
Only remember to filter the watch by the process name or you'll be overwhelmed by the information.
20/03/2017
Topic:
New SyMenu Version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
And finally here we are. The new final version is available.
Compared to the beta version we also have some little improvements.
These are the details.
  • The unlinked items are now shown with an overlay on their icons directly in the context menu
  • With autoexec on exit enabled and no task configured the program hanged because of a notification window waiting for confirmation. Removed
  • The links to folders now are shown in the contextual menu linked folder
  • The csv report available in Configuration - Advanced - Options- tab System - button Full list was messed because of the new lines in descriptions and empty values
  • SPS Manager - It is possible to stop the monitoring of every single SPS suite
  • SPS Manager - Exe parameters added
  • SPS Manager - A clean update is now reported
I decided for a long beta period to avoid unexpected bugs and I would like to thanks all people that helped with the tests.
As usual if you find anything strange, above all with the new features, let me know ASAP.
edited by Gianluca on 20/03/2017
20/03/2017
Topic:
New version

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
You're welcome!
21/03/2017
Topic:
New SyMenu Version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
It's because I updated the two suites too. It's not related to the program update.
23/03/2017
Topic:
About Symenu and translations

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
It's better if we use the email instead.
Send me an empty message from here https://www.ugmfree.it/ContactMail.aspx with your email address and we can start.
24/03/2017
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
The possible customization for publisher are these ones https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#Customization

Years ago I inserted a little banner directly inside the menu. It was very little and if you click on it, it disappeared forever, but the community reacted very bad to this news. The menu space is really precious above all in the root menu and the users optimize it in several way. In that occasion I learned that wasting those space is bad.
29/03/2017
Topic:
The reorganized SPS Manager

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
This is my study for a reorganized SPS Manager.


In my opinion this approach is cleaner than the current one and it should grant a better usability.

These are the main details.

The command to interact with a single program will be moved in a contextual menu along with the execute item and the open folder item. This way it's easier to understand which program is the target of every command. The contextual menu is dynamically created so you will find only the possible command for that particular program.
Without the big command buttons, the program details area becomes largest so you can see more information at once.

The Apply all button instead is always visible among the search filters and the Exit button. Today it appears only if you select a row in the list but this is a counter intuitive behavior because the Apply all is not related to a single program. Further it appears on the program details area that is not the right place for it because it is not related to the single program.

The search filters becomes always visible. I know that someone of you is not using the filters and hides them but the future SPS approach will be search rather than list.
My final plan is to merge the three suites and you'll have a list of more than 1.000 programs... it is not possible to scan a list of 1.000 elements so the search will be the your only chance to find something. Anyway when this happens, the filters will be changed too so don't worry about that.

That's all.
It's the first time I share a study for a future implementation with the community. It's an experiment and it means that I'm in the right mood to accept suggestions, criticism, or whatever you have to tell me. So feel free to share your ideas.
But guys, if this feature is accepted here, please don't complain when I released it Stick Out Tongue
30/03/2017
Topic:
The reorganized SPS Manager

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
sl23 wrote:
Wow!! That looks neater :-)
Thanks!

sl23 wrote:
May I suggest that you remove the Exit button for more space? Why exactly does this exist when the window has a close button?
Because no application counts on the cross only to close a window. If you don't see an exit/close button in every application is only because you have a menu item that allows to exit. But we don't have a menu at all in the SPS Manager.


sl23 wrote:
Also, this implementation is perfect, apart from the list height when display app details. Can you please expand the height of the entire window to allow more of the list to be displayed please? Currently I find it too small and your proposal reduces the current state!!
Just checked and the current window size can be adjusted and remembered. If that stays, then this request is unnecessary.
Yes. I took the screenshot at the minimum size but you will be allowed to increase the form size exactly as today.


sl23 wrote:
Another suggestion, make the Empty Trash and Update apps real buttons instead of link lookalikes. And place those on the right hand side one above the other inline with the search functions and other buttons.
You are right. I'll study a solution for this change too.


sl23 wrote:
The Update app definitions button could simply be renamed to Update Apps or Update Check.
It could be misunderstood. In fact this button don't update your apps but gives you notifications on apps that need to be updated.


sl23 wrote:
Not sure if it's better, but maybe remove the context menu and have all those options as small square buttons underneath the app info section on right? Then they can be seen. What do you think about this?
I want to clean up the UI so I don't like this solution. Every not core feature will remain almost hidden.


sl23 wrote:
If you merge everything to a single suite, does that affect our own personal suites?
Surely don't.


sl23 wrote:
What is meant by "unable to scan more than 1000 items, search is only chance to find something"? What is scan, when is it performed?
With scan I intended read one by one. A person, a normal one at least, can't read one by one more than 1000 items so the search solution is the only viable.


sl23 wrote:
Also, might be worth adding a column to the SPS Manager to allow sorting by developer?
Searching by dev, not sorting... this will be the new way.


sl23 wrote:
Oh, and a minor point, the two field boxes for App Publisher and Contact Reviewer aren't the same width
Ok.


sl23 wrote:
I'm shocked!!! I didn't even know you added a context menu to the SPS Manager!!!
Because you don't read the changelog smile I added it with Version 5.02 on 2016.04.19

sl23 wrote:
Thank you Gian, hope I influenced you a little here ;-)
A lot! I will never be tired of saying that the great success of this project comes from its community too smile
30/03/2017
Topic:
The reorganized SPS Manager

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
sl23 wrote:
Re: Exit button,
Ok I understand that you want to keep it, I don't understand why when a window has a close button. Is there a difference? Why is it necessary to have an exit and a close button? Is it an accessibility issue? How about adding it to the context menu? If not, how about reducing it's height?
Simply no Windows application in the whole world lacks of an explicit way to close a window. The window cross is not enough in no present or future application.
Who am I to break this accessibility rule? :-)

Yes it's possible to reduce the button height.


sl23 wrote:
Re: Sorting,
Search by dev!! AARRGGHH!!! I hate search! upset
Seriously though, the main reason is that it's slower. If there was a dev column you simply click it and you can find all nirsoft apps. But to find them with search means clicking search field, checking the right boxes are checked above it, typing in 'nirsoft' and click search button. Then you only have the nirsoft apps displayed, nothing else. So, to see other apps means deleting search field and clicking search again.
It's all a bit convoluted! A dev column makes it much easier and faster in the long run.
A good search helps you in various way, I need to invent nothing new for it.
For example it can offer you three shortcuts to fill three different searches for SyMenu Suite, NirSoft, and Sysinternals. And, why not, some further shortcuts to find your own suites.
The search engine can allow you to save your preferred searches so you have to fill them only the first time, then you simply click on the corresponding custom shortcut.
Or it can save automatically the most used searches.
Or the search bar updates the result list on the fly during the filling.

Obviously if I implement a search only system, I can't use the current SyMenu search tool. It has to be a nice and usable search tool instead.

Anyway, as I previously told you here, any new implementation in the SPS Manager needs a completely new approach. A new approach means a lot of work, a lot of work means a lot of time to dedicate, and, unluckily, I currently have not so much. So the search only approach will remain a nice TODO item for long.

This last reorganization instead was necessary to grant consistency and usability to the application but there will be no new feature with it.
edited by Gianluca on 30/03/2017
31/03/2017
Topic:
The reorganized SPS Manager

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
lupusbalo wrote:
BUT what bothers me a lot is that I'm tired of been suggested some apps I definetly don't want to install/and/or update i'd like something to "say that to SPS manager" (such as "do not check for updates/install)" (defaulted to "check" obviously)
But I suspect I could make a best use of the "status options" may be i missed something .......???
Yes you probably did. You can force the system to ignore the check on some suites.
https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SPSMonitoring
03/04/2017
Topic:
Hiding Hidden ITems

Gianluca
Gianluca
Administrator
Nope.
Someone has already asked me to create an option to hide all the Windows hidden and system folders but I haven't worked on it yet.

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