04/08/2012 Topic: Feature request - more compact menu Gianluca Administrator	Hi Coastie. I've already tested SyMenu with a pre-release version of Win8 and all works well. There is no integration with the metro UI in SyMenu but it seems it is not a problem because Win8 guarantee backwards compatibility. If anyone detects some compatibility issue with Win8 please let me know.
04/08/2012 Topic: Menu free Gianluca Administrator	Hi jkeks. I don't know if I well understand your suggestion... Do you intend that you would like to have shortcuts for menu sub-folders? In your example a particular shortcut will show the submenu with Chrome, Firefox and Opera. Is it correct? Well in this case I think that it's better to follow with current approach: one shortcut for menu, from version 2.0 one separate shortcut for search bar and several shortcut for every program you customize.
07/08/2012 Topic: SyMenu Plugin system Gianluca Administrator	There are plenty of vacancy for tester positions here. So you can have SyMenu in advance :-) Well... all kidding aside I think that the new version will be released in September or October because I'm trying to have at least an useful plugin for the new release but it's very difficult to find someone to write one.
08/08/2012 Topic: Menu free Gianluca Administrator	Ok. Now I understand your suggestion. It's impossible to maintain the sub menu hidden because your key combination (ALT-c -> b -> f) is only partially a shortcut (only ALT-c) and thus only partially under SyMenu control. When you use the initial letter of your entries and you navigate the menu in this way, you are using a built-in feature of the software component that SyMenu uses for its UI and it's not completely manageable. Anyway... have you really a performance problem if SyMenu entirely opens its UI to reach the sub menus???? To increase the speed of this operation I would like to suggest you a little trick. If you use a unique letter for every entry the menu component already knows what you want to open and opens directly the right sub menu. If you have two entries with the same letter the component can't decide what you want to open and only selects the entry. Use unique letters to increase the speed of selection with the keyboard.
23/08/2012 Topic: Plugin summary Gianluca Administrator	This forum category is dedicated to the SyMenu plugins. To be sure that any plugin works well please update SyMenu to the last version available. Plugin installation To make SyMenu shows a menu entry to manage plugins you have to "install" at least one plugin. To "install" a plugin you have to: update SyMenu to the last available version download the plugin unzip the downloaded package inside the SyMenu 'Plugin' folder (you can find it at the same level of Config, Icons, Profiles and ProgramFiles folders) every SyMenu plugin must reside inside a specific subfolder. In case of SyMenu Open Folder plugin the subfolder is called 'SyMenu.Plugin.OpenFolder' restart SyMenu and configure your new plugin Bye edited by Gianluca on 11/12/2017
27/08/2012 Topic: Stupid question ?. Gianluca Administrator	Well... the command window where you can monitor the SyMenu command is a part of SyMenu, it is not the real Windows cmd. In fact it is a read only window created only to view the results of your command. If you ask SyMenu to execute a command during end, SyMenu can't really end until you close the command window. This is the reason. Your solution is correct because a batch file executes in the real Windows cmd windows that doesn't hang SyMenu.
27/09/2012 Topic: Just after the donwload of the version2 Gianluca Administrator	I'm really happy that you like the new compact mode. Thanks for the bug report too. I will put it in my TODO list.
27/09/2012 Topic: Just after the donwload of the version2 Gianluca Administrator	There is a plugin from ineedh3lp that is almost ready. It is a tool to backup SyMenu elements (icons, config, programs). It's really useful. Stay tuned for it. Marc our French translator wants to create a plugin to synchronize SyMenu installations among his computers. Nick, one of the former SyMenu user, wants to create a plugin to manage SyMenu icons (find duplication and orphans). For now these are the persons that are working on the new system. I take this opportunity to invite other people that are able to program in .NET and have some ideas for SyMenu to contact me to obtain the plugin documentation to start creating.
28/09/2012 Topic: Just after the donwload of the version2 Gianluca Administrator	Hi restpeace. You can find the news in "what's new" section of the download page here. For a deeper description go to the manual here. Conversely if you are interested in the plugin system to develop something on that please send me a private message on the forum or a direct message with the contact form.
17/10/2012 Topic: SyMenu as menu for Windows 8. Gianluca Administrator	Hi Cesar. I'm collecting various reports on SyMenu behaviour on Windows 8. I would like that this thread could act as a collector for all the future reports pertinent to that topic. I add my personal report. In my system (Win 8 RC virtualized) the gesture manager doesn't work anymore. Regarding your proposal to locate SyMenu on the bottom left corner I really appreciate it. I can implement it as a new location option.
23/11/2012 Topic: any news about development? Gianluca Administrator	Hi PoWi. Unfortunately no news. I think that for a new release you have to wait the next year.
06/02/2013 Topic: suggestion for search Gianluca Administrator	Hi PoWi. What do you intend as start-time? A counter that takes track of the number of times that every application has been launched?
07/02/2013 Topic: suggestion for search Gianluca Administrator	Ok. I know that you all are awaiting for that and I hope to realize it soon.
13/02/2013 Topic: Configure Items from a file Gianluca Administrator	Hi. I don't know if I have well understand but your problem could be easily solved launching SyMenu itself with alternative credential. Since that moment any application launched from SyMenu will inherit the alternative credential. To launch SyMenu, or any other program, with alternative credential you can prepare an executable file (bat, vbs, exe) that use the Windows command RUNAS with appropriate parameter. If your need is to launch only some program with the alternative credential, you can use the executor modifier http://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#Executor_Modifier If you are annoyed to be asked every time for the network password there are some free tools to replace RUNAS which allow to include the password to. Well I can't help you better if you don't explain your needs well and unfortunately I don't know this Zenworks launcher to understand how it works.
13/02/2013 Topic: suggestion for search in folder Gianluca Administrator	Well the search speed in SyMenu is caused by the fact that all the items, configured ones and Windows ones, are stored in memory. It's not a huge amount of data so the memory doesn't suffer too much for this load. If the search is extended to all files contained in certain folders the speed surely will decrease and the occupied memory will increase so it could surely be a customizable per folder feature as you propose. But the question is: how the results have to appear? Today the search result panel is already splitted in 4 different areas. From the top: - the search bar - the SyMenu items - the built-in tools (it's a new feature of the 2.02 version) - the host programs. What do you propose for the searchable folders? The 5th section inside the search result panel? Or the results should be integrated in normal SyMenu items? Maybe I could create a search modifier that jumps from the normal mode to the search-inside-folder mode pressing, for example, a function key (F1) during the search? In this last option, is it acceptable to make the search slower because SyMenu searches for files only when you ask it to do that? And if not, how SyMenu could notice of a newly added file or a deleted one? Well the debate is open.
13/02/2013 Topic: Configure Items from a file Gianluca Administrator	Ok now I understand. In my opinion the possible solutions are two. 1) In Windows the start menu is linked to an all users menu and to a current user menu. When SyMenu starts it reads the entire Windows start menu (the general and the personal parts) and includes every application it finds in its searchable item list. The first solution could be realized customizing the Windows start menu (current user part) adding the applications the user has the authorization to see. 2) The second one in my opinion is a better solution. You can modify the SyMenu configuration file according to the network paths to the various applications that the user can see. You can find SyMenu configuration file inside the folder ./SyMenu/Config the file name is SyMenuItem.zip. The configuration file is a simple zipped xml. You can define relative paths but also absolute and network paths. If you choose the second solution you can have a semi-automatic retrieving tool for your programs collection. It's a function called Batch import (see http://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#Item_Manager_menu_batch_import) that works for network paths too. I call it semi-automatic because when you add a new program SyMenu won't sniffed it automatically but you have to import it again. The advantage of this second solution is that you have real items and not searched-and-found items (from Windows start menu). A real item in SyMenu could be renamed, moved, grouped inside logical folder, launched with parameters and so on, but mainly you can see it in the main list and not only in the search result list. I'm very interested in your use of SyMenu so if you could come back in this thread to tell if you succeeded in your migration I'll be very grateful to you.
18/02/2013 Topic: suggestion for search in folder Gianluca Administrator	I'm doing some experiments on the search file feature and I decided to split the search in two section: the first one is exactly like the current one (2.02) with SyItems, tools and Windows entries, the second one containes the file search result. The reason for this splitting is not only the performance matter but the mess in the search panel. We already have 4 section and the file search could bring hundreds of new elements. It's not good. So I've tried to put a key modifier in the search bar. If you press F2 you'll switch to file search, F1 you'll be back on the normal search. Every search will be identified clearly by a switch icon that remind you what is the current mode and what are the magic keys to change it. I'm trying that mode and I think it could be quite user friendly. If you are a mouse addicted you can click on the icon switch to change mode too. I thought a lot to the objection of "another key to press" but the UI must remains clear and the file search feature is an advanced feature so let's leave it to the advanced users that are able to press the key. I'm trying the feature among folders that contains thousands of files and it seems that the search is quite fast. Well I think that the same try on a folder that reside on a removable unit will be less terrific, but the new code I wrote for the search in 2.02 version was optimized precisely in anticipation this heavy task and it works well. If you are interested I can post an image of the not yet final UI. Stay tuned.
28/02/2013 Topic: suggestion for search in folder Gianluca Administrator	As promised you can now see the new SyMenu feature appearance. On the first image on its right you can see the switcher that indicates if you are searching on SyItems (SY) or inside the file system (FS). The three little blue circles are a simple progress indicator that appears when the retrieving of the files takes too much time (well indeed it is surprisingly fast...). You have a label that reports the total number of files and the number of indexed folders. Well the feature is really nice but at this point I decided to go ahead. If, in FS search mode, you start to write something like 'C:' or '\' it is clear that you won't find anything in your folder because the characters ':' and '\' are not suitable for file naming. But on the other side it is clear what your are trying to search something residing inside the unit C in the first case, something residing on the current unit in the second one. Well SyMenu from the next version will implement this feature too. So you can navigate in a similar way as the explorer command bar. And you can navigate whenever you want even on your network resources (with the prefix '\\'). SyMenu completes the path you are composing with all the possible matches (folders or files) and if you select one of them you can open it (with the ENTER key) or complete the path on the search bar (with the TAB key). Well last thing. Your proposal to customize the search results and to decide what kind of search SyMenu has to do is good but first I want to understand how the new feature will be used by the users. I need feedbacks on it. Depending on those in a few month I'll decide how to reorganize the search tool. Stay tuned for further news. <em>edited by Gianluca on 2/28/2013</em>
28/02/2013 Topic: suggestion for search in folder Gianluca Administrator	I've implemented it through the normal methods for file and folder management exposed by the .NET framework (System.IO). The speed is terrific even if the implementation of a good path recognizer has to be made completely by hand and it is such a difficult task. I imagine that the first release won't be bug free as usual
26/03/2013 Topic: suggestion for search in folder Gianluca Administrator	Dear everyone, the new 2.03 version is out. You can check the new explorer feature (among file into indexed SyFolders and file system) and let me know what do you think about it.

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