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F7 Posts: 12
2 days ago
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I'd like to use the "Show on mouse hover" function (SyMenu Options > General > Start menu button), but unfortunately, the menu only disappears after I've clicked on a menu item. However, if I change my mind, the menu doesn't close automatically (e.g., after 5 seconds). It also doesn't close reliably if I click anywhere on the desktop/workspace outside of the menu.
It would be great if there were an option:
"Close menu after X seconds of inactivity," where "X" is a user-defined time in seconds.
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1366
2 days ago
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I analyzed this feature which, frankly, I don’t even remember, and I discover another issue.
Sometimes, when the menu closes, the floating icon disappears as well, and there’s no way to make it appear again unless you open and close a form (configuration, options, splash…) from the taskbar icon.
Worse, the problem sometimes persists even after disabling the option, until SyMenu is restarted with the option unflagged.
I’m trying to simplify SyMenu, so instinctively my idea is to remove this option, but let’s try to understand whether it makes sense or not.
The question is: is it really useful to open the menu by hovering the floating icon with the mouse?
In my opinion it isn’t, because to actually perform any action in the menu, you still have to click on an item. There’s no function accessible through simple hovering, except for general navigation among menu entries. And SyMenu is not a navigator, neither for its own items nor for the file system items even if it allows you to browse it.
So the conclusion is that there’s no real reason to keep this feature alive, and I will probably remove it in the next version.
Anyway, if I’m missing some use cases, please let me know.
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F7 Posts: 12
2 days ago
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Thanks for your quick reply.
So, the question is, how do I open or activate the SyMenu main menu when "SyMenu.exe" is running?
- Normally, I believe, it's done by clicking the system tray icon. That's fine, but what if I can't see the taskbar and therefore the tray icons (distraction-free mode, full-screen mode)? I can't access the tray icon directly; I have to perform an additional action first. Of course, that's a minor issue, I know.
- Hotkey (shortcut): That's okay too, but since I navigate within SyMenu by moving the mouse and click to start a desired action, it makes sense for me to activate the SyMenu main menu with a mouse interaction. If I wanted to be really efficient, I would just use (exclusively) keyboard-operated tools like "Flow Launcher."
- In the past SyMenu had "Mouse Gestures", but this technique doesn't work for me at all - in any program.
I usually open the main menu by clicking the floating icon, which I've positioned in the very upper left corner of the screen so that 99% of it is obscured, leaving only about 2 mm visible.
I have a program launcher that is of course nowhere near as good and comprehensive as Symenu, but which offers the option to use small areas of the screen corners as triggers. Perhaps that feature would be worth considering instead of the floating icon?
If I've fundamentally misunderstood something about how to use SyMenu, please let me know.
edited by F7 on 06/02/2026
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1366
2 days ago
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If you don’t see the system tray icon and don’t want to use your keyboard, you can rely on the floating icon.
The only difference compared to your current workflow is that you need to click on it instead of hovering.
Mouse gestures are still available, but I abandoned the developing of that feature long ago, so I don’t recommend re-enabling it.
If you still want to count on it, you can search the forum for instructions on how to activate again.
Indeed there’s another way to launch SyMenu, although I doubt it will be suitable for you: you can create a desktop shortcut pointing to SyMenu and use that instead.
SyMenu allows multiple instances, but only one instance per physical executable. So if your shortcut points to a specific SyMenu.exe, only one instance will run. If you try to start a second instance from the same executable, the menu of the first one will pop up.
Since it works this way, you could also use a third‑party tool to create a mouse gesture that triggers the same shortcut. The effect will be the same.
Please let me know if any of these options could work for you.
By the way, which program launcher offers the feature you described?
I’m curious to test it, because I’d like to understand whether it could be useful to implement something similar in SyMenu.
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F7 Posts: 12
1 days ago
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Gianluca wrote:
Please let me know if any of these options could work for you. Not really, but that's all just a minor point. No real issue.
Gianluca wrote:
By the way, which program launcher offers the feature you described? wintools.info/index.php/start-everywhere
"Active Corners"
edited by F7 on 06/02/2026
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1366
1 days ago
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Ok, I tested Start Everywhere and I really like the feature, so I’ll add it to the SyMenu todo list and let’s see what happens.
By the way, I didn’t know WinTools.info, and I’ve just realized they offer a lot of nice freeware tools.
So - message for the SPS editors - I’d really appreciate it if someone could take care of adding them to the SyMenu suite.
In the meantime, I’ll try to contact Peter Panisz to see whether he likes the idea.
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