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teadrinker
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13/02/2023
teadrinker
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I have an application called MP3tag. Normally I can drag files or folders into the opened window of this app. However when I open this app using SyMenu dragging doesn't work anymore. The cursor shows a forbidden symbol (circle with a line through it).

Any idea why this is?
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Gianluca
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14/02/2023
Gianluca
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In my opinion it depends on Windows elevation.

Every program inherits the parent privilege level. So MP3tag inherits the SyMenu elevation level because you use SyMenu as a launcher and it becomes the MP3tag parent. .

If SyMenu runs with higher privileges, MP3tag inherits the same privileges and you cannot drag from Windows Explorer that instead always runs with normal privileges.
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teadrinker
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14/02/2023
teadrinker
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Well, that makes SyMenu unusuable then.
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Gianluca
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15/02/2023
Gianluca
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I'm sorry to hear that.

Lucky other users aren't bothered by this limitation that, I repeat, is a Windows security limit. So you can follow MS recommendation and work as they suggest (never use elevated users if you can) or use other systems like Linux that are more flexible... or stay with Windows and find an alternative launcher to SyMenu even if this means you won't be part of this collaborative, positive, constructive, and relaxed community wink

edited by Gianluca on 15/02/2023
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teadrinker
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16/02/2023
teadrinker
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So, I invested some time and came up with a workaround.

This involves running an autohotkey script that can be found here: https://www.autohotkey.com/board/topic/108434-run-ahk-as-admin-or-not-dilemma/

The script runs the executable 'unelevated' and this enables the drag & drop again that SyMenu disables when it is run as admin. You set SyMenu to run the script instead of the executable directly.

This workaround seems to function fine and fast. I still think the hotkey functionality of SyMenu should be changed to where it can always be called upon, regardless of what applications are opened, without it being run in Admin mode. To me this seems top of the line essential functionality for a menu that replaces the OS menu.

edited by teadrinker on 16/02/2023
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Gianluca
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17/02/2023
Gianluca
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If you think about that, you'll realize that the replacement of the Windows Start menu is not the main reason to use SyMenu.
SyMenu is mainly a way to manage your portable applications. Then, to some extent, it can be considered a Start menu replacement without all the expected features. But it's incidental.



Returning to your issue I don't understand why you need a script that allows you to execute something without elevation when you simply can execute SyMenu without admin privileges.

BTW it's exactly the same situation you find in the Windows Start menu and Windows Explorer that run without elevation.
If you execute SyMenu without elevation, everything launched by SyMenu will have no elevation. And when you need a certain program be elevated, you have the special launch option in SyMenu, both in Configuration if you always need this kind of behaviour and as a contextual menu modifier.

Anyway I'm happy to ear you solved this way, but executing SyMenu elevated, is not a common scenario, so I think I won't implement the script you suggested.
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teadrinker
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17/02/2023
teadrinker
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Gianluca wrote:
Returning to your issue I don't understand why you need a script that allows you to execute something without elevation when you simply can execute SyMenu without admin privileges.



As we have established, that is not an option because your chosen hotkey system doesn't work all the time unless SyMenu is ran as admin.

Btw: I am specifically looking for something that replaces the awful Win start menu and that is portable itself so I don't have to rebuild the menu anytime I reinstall my OS.

edited by teadrinker on 17/02/2023
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