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gggirlgeek Posts: 6
28/06/2021
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RE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_desktop_application_launchers
I don't see SyMenu Suite listed there. However, it is listed under Start Menu Replacements but I believe that's incorrect, or maybe just incomplete. Any Portable Platform/Launcher could be used as a Start Menu replacement but that is just the bare minimum of what SyMenu Suite does. For example, unlike StartIsBack and it's kin, portable platform/launchers catalog, update, and provide external links to software sources. (I feel that "Application Launcher" doesn't cover it either, but this is where SyMenu's kin are listed so I'm not up for nit picking.)
I am willing to edit the application launcher Wikipedia page but I don't have some of the information it asks for, so I need some help, or just a developer to go behind me and fill it in (e.g. the programming language.) Is someone willing to do that? Also notice that all the other apps on the list have their own Wikipedia page. SyMenu does not so I just linked the download page in the footnotes. I also put an external reference to Raymond.cc's article which recommends Symenu and a couple more. He's pretty reliable when it comes to Windows IMHO.
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It' done. Have a look. Only the license type and the programming language are missing. I also am not sure I understand whether there's a difference in SyMenu, SyMenu Suite, and SyMenu SPS Suite. Is there one? Make sure I named it correctly, please. I'll leave it to you and your helper elves @Gianluca.
Thanks and I stil love SyMenu.
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
28/06/2021
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Thank you gggirlgeek but, with your post, you remind me a very sad story about SyMenu.
Long ago I created a page on Wikipedia for SyMenu.
The page was updated every time I updated the program and was a useful page to explain SyMenu to the new users.
For the same reason I added SyMenu to other wiki pages because it fit perfectly on several other categories.
After a while the SyMenu page was tagged as an advertise page.
Plus they told me the page was poorly built and that the external links I supplied were not legitimate (?????).
I tried to explain that SyMenu is a freeware tool and that they are allowing the publication to several other similar programs (Liberkey, PortableApps, and so on) but, you know how it works, the wikiers are not democratic beasts... when they think a thing, that is the true.
So the SyMenu page was deleted, the reference in the other wikipedia pages were deleted as well... SyMenu was totally eclipsed from wikipedia.
Well I don't believe in conspiracy theories but guys, five years later I still don't have a clear explanation.
If you want this is an interesting reading on how things works on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/SyMenu
Regarding your edit some data are not perfect.
"SyMenu Suite" should be "SyMenu". The suite is one of its feature.
"Software license" is "Freeware" (the license is not taken from the most used freeware ones but it's certainly freeware).
"Open Source" is "No" (at least for now).
"Programming language" is "C#".
Thank you!
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gggirlgeek Posts: 6
28/06/2021
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Wow that discussion on Wikipedia was strange. Basically, you were too excited about your software? So, without actual evidence of anything against the rules they can just say, "No, the public should not have this information because you like it too much"? It's amazing that there is any information at all in Wikipedia.
Anyway, I corrected the information you mentioned. One thing though. Are you sure I should put "Freeware" in the License column? I don't think they were asking the pricing model. I think they want the type of copyrights license it has (if that makes sense. I don't know much about this subject.) Maybe it should say "Proprietary"?
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
30/06/2021
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gggirlgeek wrote:
Wow that discussion on Wikipedia was strange. Basically, you were too excited about your software? So, without actual evidence of anything against the rules they can just say, "No, the public should not have this information because you like it too much"? It's amazing that there is any information at all in Wikipedia.
This is the dark side of Wikipedia. It's a collaborative encyclopedia but you can't collaborate if the moderators decide you are out.
gggirlgeek wrote:
Anyway, I corrected the information you mentioned. One thing though. Are you sure I should put "Freeware" in the License column? I don't think they were asking the pricing model. I think they want the type of copyrights license it has (if that makes sense. I don't know much about this subject.) Maybe it should say "Proprietary"
You are right. Proprietary is better than Freeware.
And probably it's better to change the creator column with ugmfree.it to give all the users a clue on where to find it (the footnote on the version column is less evident).
Thank you for your help and let's see if this time the information remains.
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lupusbalo Posts: 76
04/07/2021
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+1
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