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B.Wettengel
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30/04/2020
B.Wettengel
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Hi there,

on Windows10-1909 the first Run of "RUN-TrIDNet.bat" (Version 1.95.Defs.24042020) always Reports Error: "Internet needed in the first run for complete the app".

This is, because the Output of Ping uses "Bytes=…" with capital "B" and not "bytes=…", as aspected in the Bat-file.

Correction is easy in two ways:
a) PING -n 1 8.8.8.8 | find /i "bytes=" > nul
b) PING -n 1 8.8.8.8 | find "Bytes=" > nul

I preferre a) because both Bytes/bytes are accepted.

Don´t know, how to correct for others, but edit the RUN-TrIDNet.bat worked for me.
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VVV_Easy_Symenu
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30/04/2020
VVV_Easy_Symenu
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Hello,
Fixed with "find / i" in TrIDNet 1.95 Defs.20200428. Thank you very much for the alert and the solution.


BTW, with your knowledge, have you ever thought being a publisher of the SPS App?
I said that because the TrIDNet SPS App adaptation is one of the most complicated to understand. You may take a look in: SPS Builder code snippets
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B.Wettengel
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02/05/2020
B.Wettengel
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Thank you for the quick response. Because my time is very limited, I'm afraid, I am no good publisher. But as you suggested, I played a bit with SPS-Builder.
I tried to publish "Audiograbber" (it is a little bit outdated, but I'm still using it).

Then I looked at "Ahnenblatt". Version2.98 is availaible in the SyMenu-Suite. But there are newer Versions availaible, BUT they have to be paid (or lesser functions availaible).
How do you deal with that? I can think about two ways: a) make a fork and keep the old one or b) make only a new Version.

And finaly I tried to build Musescore3, because I found no really working portable App. I used a development build from musescore.org. I will update to Produktversion as soon as it is finished.

And one other question: I loaded my SPS's to UGM. What else is to do?
What do you think About my first steps?
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Gianluca
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04/05/2020
Gianluca
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I can answer to this.

The candidate editor posts his new SPS, I review it and explain what has to be changed to be entitled for publication. Then, after some recursions, when the SPS is quite good, I'll publish it.

But usually this kind of conversation is private, not because there is some secrets but because the SPS world is so complex and wide that an information useful for one editor and one particular program, is almost always useless for another editor.

I should create a wiki for this topic but my time is very limited and this project is always postponed.

For example, your Audiograbber SPS place a new issue I've never seen before: you put the program description in German, while we only publish SPS in English. It's an information useful for you but useless for every other editor.

Are your two SPS interesting?

Yes sure, even if Audiograbber is so dated. I don't care much if a program is old if it is useful.

And MuseScore is probably the only program of its kind in the entire suite.

So both your SPS are valuable but, despite this, I won't publish them because of your assertion:

B.Wettengel wrote:
Because my time is very limited, I'm afraid, I am no good publisher.

The most important thing in the SyMenu suite is the suite maintenance. When an editor posts some SPS I ask him to keep them updated, I ask him to reply to the users requests, I expect him to come into play as an active member, not as an occasional one. I don't think you have the time for this so sorry, your SPS won't be published.

B.Wettengel wrote:
Then I looked at "Ahnenblatt". Version2.98 is available in the SyMenu-Suite. But there are newer Versions available, BUT they have to be paid (or lesser functions available). How do you deal with that? I can think about two ways: a) make a fork and keep the old one or b) make only a new Version.

Our policy is to avoid every paid program. SyMenu publishes only free programs so the only viable option is the first one: publish the latest free version.

Anyway, thank you for your effort. If another editor is willing to take your SPS, especially MuseScore, I'll be happy to give it to him.

edited by Gianluca on 05/05/2020
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B.Wettengel
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04/05/2020
B.Wettengel
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Ok, Thanks. Sorry for that. I uploaded two new Versions, before I read your response, so they can be discarded. Keep on with SyMenu, it is very useful to the Freeware community.

P.S: I accidantaly pressed the "Report to Moderator"-Button.
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VVV_Easy_Symenu
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09/05/2020
VVV_Easy_Symenu
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I just uploaded MuseScore (x64) to UGM (it will probably be visible tomorrow) in the category "Others - Specialized Editors".
It's a FOSS application, that's what I like a lot.
It seems the typical development with QT5 so I think would work well but not completely Stealth (record data in% AppDATA%)
Enjoy of it.
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Gianluca
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09/05/2020
Gianluca
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Thank you VVV_Easy_Symenu.

Know what?
It seems that creating a folder under the program bin folder and redirecting the USERPROFILE environment variable, MuseScore starts to act as a real portable application, writing its things under this new folder instead of AppData\Roaming one.

In the SPS it's a matter of two lines:
MakeDir .\USERPROFILE
AddVar USERPROFILE=.\USERPROFILE

However I noted a possible issue: the process MuseScore3.exe remains active in the Task Manager even after the program closing.
It's annoying because if you started it from a removable drive, you can't remove it.
Anyway I think it's a problem related to the program so we only have to alert the users with a tiny note in the SPS.
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VVV_Easy_Symenu
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10/05/2020
VVV_Easy_Symenu
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Done (with a little changes) and I'm going to include it in the SPS Builder code snippets post.
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VVV_Easy_Symenu
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21/05/2020
VVV_Easy_Symenu
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@B.Wettengel, the uploaded MuseScore (x64) to UGM SyMenu Suite works fine in your PC?
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