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sl23 Posts: 285
10/09/2015
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A request if I may...
I understand the fact that certain apps won't be added via the general SPS system as is, perhaps they are beta's, demo's or whatever. But the folder that contains personal SPS files isn't much use by itself.
Currently I have a TEST setup for using the SPS builder to create new SPS to add to the existing list of apps, which is good and works very well. I would like though that when creating my own SPS for personal use for apps such as Rainmeter beta's amongst others, that the SPS Manager has another tab that detects these personal SPS files and can use them as if they are like the typical apps that appear in the SPS Manager list. I hope all that makes sense.
I realise I could setup the SPS Builder install location to my own apps folder or something but it would make life much easier if SyMenu/SPSManager to auto scan the _CacheCustom folder for any new SPS files users may want to add and use them as if they are like the built in ones.
I like how I have my SPS Builder setup folder so as to keep everything in test seperate from anything that gets installed and used, so this request would make a big difference to users wanting to do that. It would also make it easier to update existing apps if they are scanned by the SPS Manager.
Thanks Gian
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
11/09/2015
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So you would like to have a custom suite instead of a custom folder inside every suite (_CacheCustom), wouldn't you? Have I well understand?
It's a perfectly feasible feature.
I could make SyMenu scans its SPSSuite folder and if it finds a folder other than NirSoftSuite, SyMenuSuite, SysinternalsSuite, it assumes that it is a custom suite folder. It will be a peculiar suite because its SPS couldn't be updated online, you'll be in charge for changing the SPS, but the programs inside work exactly as the other suites' programs, so you can install, update and delete them as usual.
Even you can have more than a custom suite, naturally with different names.
I like this idea. What do you think?
Another improvement could be to make the custom SPS files located inside the _CacheCustom folder of an official suite, recognizable. In this way you can easily search for every custom program inside every single suite, even into the custom suite itself... I know it's a kind of recursive thing but who cares, maybe you want to have a custom suite for your personal official programs and inside the suite some other programs that are in test so you can put them inside the _CacheCustom folder.
sl23 wrote:
it would make life much easier if SyMenu/SPSManager to auto scan the _CacheCustom folder for any new SPS files users may want to add and use them as if they are like the built in ones
Doesn't SyMenu behave already in that way?
SyMenu does scan the _CacheCustom as it does with the main suite folder, otherwise it is a bug and in this case please report to me describing accurately the issue.
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sl23 Posts: 285
11/09/2015
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The custom folder sps files are detected in sps manager, I needed to both restart symenu and scroll to the very bottom of the list, whereas I expected it would be listed alphabetically. I was attempting to add GPU~Z ROG skin version. I'm curious why you didn't add it? Looks better than original version.
Yes you are correct, that is exactly what I wanted to do. I also would prefer a single list instead of tabs for all apps. Maybe it would get to long though. Perhaps a tree list? Not sure if that's better? Actually, a single list for all apps, but with new headers for types of list, ie, nirsoft, custom, new release, updates, etc.
Also, when looking through list checking for new apps, updates, it would be nice for the whole line to be highlighted. Maybe different colours for new and update.
Thanks
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
13/09/2015
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sl23 wrote:
The custom folder sps files are detected in sps manager, I needed to both restart symenu and scroll to the very bottom of the list, whereas I expected it would be listed alphabetically.
Actually it's sufficient to exit from SPS Manager and re-enter without shutting SyMenu. Any time you enter in SPS Manager the file syste is rescanned.
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I was attempting to add GPU~Z ROG skin version. I'm curious why you didn't add it? Looks better than original version.
I thought that add two different SPS files for a simple skinned version was a bit confusing for the users. Usually we add more than one version of the same program because there are actual differences, for example the 32 or 64bit platform. But if you think that the skinned version has a better look that the normal one I can replace the SPS. No problem for this.
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Actually, a single list for all apps, but with new headers for types of list, ie, nirsoft, custom, new release, updates, etc.
Well for now I prefer to maintain the suites from different publishers in separated tabs for performance reasons but I fully understand the reasons for which you are suggesting this change and in the future, be sure, the SPS Manager will be transformed in something more similar to an app store therefore you will have no more lists but only search!
Maybe you'll find a little group of suggested programs (the newest, the most downloaded...) and you'll have a stronger and elaborate way to search for your preferred application (by name, by category, by description, by user rating, by similarity with other programs, and so on).
On the other hand I'll be able to offer more services such as the user comments and feedback for every programs, the user rates, a global counter for downloading, an online account where you can decide which programs to deliver to your local SyMenu installations and which programs to remove.
This is a very big change because it assumes that all the SPS managing will be delegated to the web.
But frankly I have not enough resources (time, help, money) to accomplish this big project today.
Maybe in future, I don't know, it depends on the success the SPS will have.
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sl23 Posts: 285
13/09/2015
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Gianluca wrote:
sl23 wrote:
I was attempting to add GPU~Z ROG skin version. I'm curious why you didn't add it? if you think that the skinned version has a better look that the normal one I can replace the SPS. No problem for this. Personally, yes I do. but that's just my opinion so perhaps best left as is. I have my own SPS for the Rog skin version anyway, and it's not something that will require updating very often. I only manually update around five programs as I don't have the time for full on computing like I used to anymore :-(
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the SPS Manager will be transformed in something more similar to an app store therefore you will have no more lists but only search! Arrrggghhh! The dreaded search!!! I do hope there will still be some kind of list to browse through? Unless the search includes description so as to locate all apps for a specific purpose? Sorry, never been a fan of using search. Probably should just use it but I find it leaves some things out, not so much Symenu but all searches in any app.
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This is a very big change because it assumes that all the SPS managing will be delegated to the web.
But frankly I have not enough resources (time, help, money) to accomplish this big project today.
Maybe in future, I don't know, it depends on the success the SPS will have. Currently my work has just become unstable, due to working through an agency, but I'm hoping to eventually remedy that. I would love to donate to the project, though I doubt it would help alleviate your financial burdens with the paltry amount I could afford! If I can help with anything I would love to. I can keep adding apps beyond my own requirements, but that isn't really helping, though it's fun, it's increasing the burden for you. Really, what's needed is to drive SyMenu and the SPS Builder forward through advertising. Trouble is that so many have succumbed to PortableApps and the like, that it will be a great task getting them to switch! I only hope it can be done.
Thank you for such a brilliant idea 
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
16/09/2015
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Don't be alarmed, there is a long way to realize the SPS store.
Indeed to really boost the SPS store project the donations from the users are not enough but it would be necessary (and beautiful) that someone strongly believes in SyMenu and SPS and finances the project.
In my real job I'm a web architect and developer so I perfectly know what kind of infrastructure the store project needs. And how many person should work on it...
For now let's play around this fantastic game and let's see how far it will come 
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