25/01/2018 Topic: Update apps manually when SPS is not updated Baol	Hi, greetings to all from Pisa, Italy. I apologize in advance if I will say and will ask for obvious things, but I could not find information about it. I use Symenu (for me, the best program of its kind, there's no need to say it) and many portable applications directly on my Hard Drive. Reasons are the great flexibility of portable applications in comparison to installed application (for example, changing versions/settings/data is just a matter of moving 2 folders) and the fact that resetting the system is much faster (format, reinstall O.S., put back my portable apps folder and I'm almost done). Probably portable apps are slightly slower and less integrated with the system: that involves some problems but I accept them quietly, I consider them much less than the advantages. One of the above-mentioned problems is that usually it's not possible/advisable to update apps through their integrated functions: doing so, often turns portable apps into installed ones; so you have to update them manually. I didn't say anything that you all do not already know well: manually updating apps is an extremely boring/time consuming process, so I'm always happy when I find an alternative. That's the reason why I've moved to SPS Manager all my apps that it supports. And here is my problem: it happens that an app has an update, but the SPS doesn't report it (yet). It's ok, I understand there's life outside the PC , so SPS may not be immediately updated; but there are apps that have not been updated for several months , and they are not yet. In that case, I'd revert to do a manual update but there's no way to update manually the apps and make the SPS Manager accept them: if You try to do it, even renaming suitably the XXX.sps.version file in the app folder, the SPS Manager relies on its XXX.sps file only (contained in the YYY.sps.zip file, in the "cache" folder), sees the version it's different and claims there's an update, no matter if it actually refers to an older version. Of course, if You do it, the app rolls back to the version stated by the SPS Manager. You can avoid this by extracting the appropriate XXX.sps from the zip file, editing it, putting it back to its place and restarting Symenu/SPS Manager: obviously, that's not a solution (I just did it as a test); moreover, You loose the file the next day, when You check for newer definitions. You can rename your XXX.sps.version file to 0.00.sps.version, so SPS Manager will not tell anything about updates but you cannot see which version you really have in the SPS Manager greed, loosing a useful information. I even tried to create my personal SPS file (by the way: _CacheCustom folder is not present in the SyMenuSuite Folder and if I create it, it's ignored. Path is [...]SyMenu\ProgramFiles\SPSSuite\SyMenuSuite\_CacheCustom), SPS Builder says it's correct, but I cannot see the app in the SPS Manager. Anyway, it would not be very useful for a single user: when the update is missing for a long time, it would be better (with regrets) to renounce to SPS, put the apps back in their previous state and go back to completely updating them manually; it would take less time. Unless there is something I have not understood: is there a way to make manual updates acceptable for the SPS Manager? If I understood correctly and there is currently no way to do it, do you think it will be possible in the future? Thanks and bye.
26/01/2018 Topic: Update apps manually when SPS is not updated Baol	Hi Gianluca, first of all, many thanks for Your really prompt reply, just a few minutes after my post; it's been greatly appreciated. Everything is perfectly clear, you explained yourself well. I have to check the specific cases (not many, actually) of the missing updates, but I'm quite sure the cause is, for almost everyone, one of those you mentioned. For those remaining: I saw the Contact reviewer but I've never used it because, if the delay is short, I wait safely (life outside the PC...), or we talk about several months and then I thought it was useless to warn. For example, Emsisoft Emergency Repair Kit, which I believe is free for personal use, is Version 2017.4.0.7437, released on 2017/06/01 in SPS Manager, while You find Version 2017.12.0.8334, released on 2018/01/02 on the site of the producer. Regarding the _CacheCustom folder, You are right: I found the relative information on this site or forum, I really don't remember where, because I've saved and tried all the information that seemed relevant to me, and I definitely lost myself among them, without noticing that this was obsolete. I'll certainly try the workarounds You suggest, and see if I succeed. I'll keep in touch. Thanks again.
26/01/2018 Topic: Update apps manually when SPS is not updated Baol	I forgot to say that, regarding my example of Emsisoft Emergency Repair Kit, the latest release is very recent, but there have been other previous updates in 7 months. Bye.

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