user2018 Posts: 10
16/07/2020
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Hello.. if this feature is there I cannot find it... im an update maniac.. lol I want everything on my computer to be up to date. So i have to manually keep on checking for the updates for the symenu portable apps. Im not talking about the symenu itself that much but the portable apps in the suite. Is there a way to do this?
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
16/07/2020
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Not precisely.
When SyMenu starts, it checks for update for the installed apps.
If it finds something, you'll be alerted in a not invasive way (the Get new apps entry changes in "Updates available" and becomes green instead of blue).
With the next version, that will come soon, the check for definitions will become mandatory and will happen at least once a day. I'm tired of helping people that report an outdated app, or a not available app, or other problems, only to discover that they disabled the definitions check.
I'm planning to implement an alert in the task bar notification area too, where the SyMenu icon appears, but it will be in the future.
If you click on the "Updates available" entry the SPS manager form opens and shows you the list of updatable programs. Select them all and update.
It's the most I can do it.
A more driven updating method reminds me the Win10 update system that honestly I don't like very much.
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user2018 Posts: 10
16/07/2020
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Oh its ok.. I cannot complain, your product is fantastic and i want to thank you for the work you have put into it. I was just wondering if there was an autoupdater method that would just work on its own.. Windows 10 forces the udpates but with windows 7 you had the OPTION for automatic updates or not or only some... so an option might be something to consider in a future build.
I know how it is when people complain but in reality its something they are missing.. i do tech support hahhahhaa.....
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Gianluca wrote:
Not precisely.
When SyMenu starts, it checks for update for the installed apps.
If it finds something, you'll be alerted in a not invasive way (the Get new apps entry changes in "Updates available" and becomes green instead of blue).
With the next version, that will come soon, the check for definitions will become mandatory and will happen at least once a day. I'm tired of helping people that report an outdated app, or a not available app, or other problems, only to discover that they disabled the definitions check.
I'm planning to implement an alert in the task bar notification area too, where the SyMenu icon appears, but it will be in the future.
If you click on the "Updates available" entry the SPS manager form opens and shows you the list of updatable programs. Select them all and update.
It's the most I can do it.
A more driven updating method reminds me the Win10 update system that honestly I don't like very much.
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
16/07/2020
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The problem in SyMenu (yes... incredibly SyMenu itself has some problems...) is the proliferation of the options. In this period I'm trying to remove the less used options/features or simplify them because, often, when a user asks me some info on a certain feature, I don't even remember what the feature is, what it does, and how I implemented it
Regarding the auto update we have a further, bigger problem.
SyMenu is portable so the option to automatically update all the apps could be usually good but can become inappropriate on certain PCs (work, school, public).
For this reason I think I won't do it in a completely unattended way.
Probably I will offer an easy way to update all with a single click but my intention is leaving the choice to the user, always.
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sl23 Posts: 285
01/12/2022
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Surely if there was an option in the Options form about making this fully automatic, then that is a users decision, is it not? Ticking that box to say you want fully auto, silent updates is as good as you single clicking a notification daily? What do you think?
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
02/12/2022
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My preclusion towards the fully automatic update is coming from my own experience: sometimes I need it, sometimes I don't.
So, to make everything happy, even not fully enthusiastic, I'm experimenting with a solution to automate the process, at least a bit more than today.
The current update process is cumberstone because it's something like this:
- if SyMenu is configured to check for updates at startup it checks for the SPS update too
- if it finds new SPS it changes the icon in the contextual menu but from then on the automation is finished and you need to do some actions to really update
- you have to open the context menu
- you have to click on the green button "Updates available"
- you have to select all the SPS with update status
- you have to confirm.
What if instead a toast Windows message alerts you that some updates are available and suggests you to update them with a single click? Won't it be terrific?
This way you can choose to proceed or to avoid the updates or to go to the app form and see with your eyes what are the updatable apps and choose to proceed from there.
I think the toast message could be a good compromise.
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sl23 Posts: 285
02/12/2022
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I'm not a fan of notifications, but yes, it's a great compromise.
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