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user2018 Posts: 10
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well i was thinking that on my older laptop that had i5 and 8 gb of ram... my computer was too slow to handle this program..
So now I tested it on my new Omen gaming laptop with nvme ssd and 32 gigs of ram and ... it takes a huge amount of time to load...
I can load 3 virtual machines with windows 10 faster than this one little program... lol its silly
so i discovered that symenu only uses one core of my 6 cores...
so it takes its good old time to load.. and indeed it loads on this new laptop.. but then the menus are huge and you have to go up and down
and there is no scrollbar.
i realize that most people only select a few of the portable apps, but I WANT THEM ALL.
i mean with such a powerhorse of a machine cant i have them all so i can test them?
perhaps there is a work around I am not aware of. If so, please enlighten me
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
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Yes there is.
The problem with your configuration is that SyMenu needs to have all the entries in memory at once. Useless and very heavy.
The right way to manage tons of programs is to create some containers inside the menu and distribute the program items all along them. At that point SyMenu will be able to load only the root elements leaving the subfolders loading for a moment when you really need them. Moreover SyMenu will be able to release the unused memory and it'll become a flash. Granted!
Since you want to have them all, I consider you an expert user, so please, before installing everything RTFM!!! as a power user should always do. And read especially this point: https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SPSItemLocators
My advise is: delete everything, click the right configuration button (probably the second one: "Position the new installed programs inside some folders named according to their own category") and download them all again. You'll have a menu automatically configured with subcontainer named as the program categories. Then you can rearrange them as you like but you won't be blocked!
And, BTW, when you configured correctly your menu, test it again on you old laptop i5: it'll be a flash all the same 
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user2018 Posts: 10
12/04/2019
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Thank you Sir.. we learn something every day. I do like this tool collection so now I am following your clear and simple instructions. I greatly appreciate your tip!
Gianluca wrote:
Yes there is.
The problem with your configuration is that SyMenu needs to have all the entries in memory at once. Useless and very heavy.
The right way to manage tons of programs is to create some containers inside the menu and distribute the program items all along them. At that point SyMenu will be able to load only the root elements leaving the subfolders loading for a moment when you really need them. Moreover SyMenu will be able to release the unused memory and it'll become a flash. Granted!
Since you want to have them all, I consider you an expert user, so please, before installing everything RTFM!!! as a power user should always do. And read especially this point: https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SPSItemLocators
My advise is: delete everything, click the right configuration button (probably the second one: "Position the new installed programs inside some folders named according to their own category") and download them all again. You'll have a menu automatically configured with subcontainer named as the program categories. Then you can rearrange them as you like but you won't be blocked!
And, BTW, when you configured correctly your menu, test it again on you old laptop i5: it'll be a flash all the same
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user2018 Posts: 10
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Im downloading all of them again.. and then i was thinking that perhaps this menu into categories should be the default one when you first download it. Like the portableapps.com one does
Im sure many have made the same mistake as I.
just an aftethought.
user2018 wrote:
Thank you Sir.. we learn something every day. I do like this tool collection so now I am following your clear and simple instructions. I greatly appreciate your tip!
Gianluca wrote:
Yes there is.
The problem with your configuration is that SyMenu needs to have all the entries in memory at once. Useless and very heavy.
The right way to manage tons of programs is to create some containers inside the menu and distribute the program items all along them. At that point SyMenu will be able to load only the root elements leaving the subfolders loading for a moment when you really need them. Moreover SyMenu will be able to release the unused memory and it'll become a flash. Granted!
Since you want to have them all, I consider you an expert user, so please, before installing everything RTFM!!! as a power user should always do. And read especially this point: https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SPSItemLocators
My advise is: delete everything, click the right configuration button (probably the second one: "Position the new installed programs inside some folders named according to their own category") and download them all again. You'll have a menu automatically configured with subcontainer named as the program categories. Then you can rearrange them as you like but you won't be blocked!
And, BTW, when you configured correctly your menu, test it again on you old laptop i5: it'll be a flash all the same
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user2018 Posts: 10
14/04/2019
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I want to confirm that your solution worked like a charm! Symenu is now lightning fast and enjoyable to use. The fact that it puts them in categories helps immensely with discovering all the treasure apps! I dont know if you are the developer or you can let the developer know, but I think this should be the default "out of the box" way that symenu puts the programs in... or at least make the options far clearer with simple explanations. The help documentation is great but as a busy person, I dont have much time to find the help pages and start reading about it. So if some effort is made for it to be intuitive or default option that would be great. On my side, if there is anything i can do to help you guys with the program, even if it means making a few graphics to explain the options let me know.
I want to congratulate you for doing this program... i can only imagine what an immense undertaking it is to track down all these free apps and organizing them and keep the links for the downloads correct ... wow.... !
thank you all for doing this for us!
Gianluca wrote:
Yes there is.
The problem with your configuration is that SyMenu needs to have all the entries in memory at once. Useless and very heavy.
The right way to manage tons of programs is to create some containers inside the menu and distribute the program items all along them. At that point SyMenu will be able to load only the root elements leaving the subfolders loading for a moment when you really need them. Moreover SyMenu will be able to release the unused memory and it'll become a flash. Granted!
Since you want to have them all, I consider you an expert user, so please, before installing everything RTFM!!! as a power user should always do. And read especially this point: https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SPSItemLocators
My advise is: delete everything, click the right configuration button (probably the second one: "Position the new installed programs inside some folders named according to their own category") and download them all again. You'll have a menu automatically configured with subcontainer named as the program categories. Then you can rearrange them as you like but you won't be blocked!
And, BTW, when you configured correctly your menu, test it again on you old laptop i5: it'll be a flash all the same
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
14/04/2019
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Yes I'm the SyMenu developer and I strongly appreciate every suggestion coming from users. Well this project is mainly fueled by the users suggestions.
Why isn't this option the default one?
Because your scenario is not so common.
Commonly the users do a cherry picking selection instead of grabbing all the programs at once and, if I make a precise selection, it is annoying to have folder categories automatically created from nothing.
Plus the most common scenario is that a user wants to decide by himself the program categorization. I know users that spend literally years perfecting their configuration.
Anyway your experience with this problem is not unique so I have to think some sort of cure.
What do you think about a message that alerts the user that it is not recommended to install more than x programs (20? 30?) on the SyMenu root?
Just before the installation I can easily check how many programs already are in the root folder and how many the user is trying to install, plus the currently selected option. If the option is "install them all on the root" the alert pops up and the user can choose to move on or to modify his selection.
BTW if you want to help, be my guest. Please contact me in private and let's see what we can do.
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