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Item Multiple select for easiest customization
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lupusbalo Posts: 77
19/04/2016
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I use Symenu for some weeks now, and found that It's really a smart piece of software!
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I use extensively LiberKey and PortableApps (which I embedded in Symenu) as well as WSCC for years and Symenu allow for a Unified Interface that's GREAT!!
I have 2 questions:
- Why don't you use existing categories for Nirsoft/SysInternals/SPS ....
It's really boring to try to rebuild them as .... next question
- Is there any way to have multiple select in the configuration panel
(could ease a solution to question above)
thanks for any clue...
Lupusbalo
edited by lupusbalo on 19/04/2016
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
20/04/2016
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lupusbalo wrote:
Why don't you use existing categories for Nirsoft/SysInternals/SPS ....
I'm using the Nirsoft categories exactly as they are in the Nirsoft pad file http://www.nirsoft.net/pad/pads.zip.
In particular I'm using the tag Program_Specific_Category. Maybe do you prefer the tag Program_Category_Class? Is it clearer in your opinion? Why?
Regarding Sysinternals I'm using exactly the same categories they publish in their web site so your suggestion is not so clear. Which kind of categories am I assumed to use if not the original ones?
lupusbalo wrote:
Is there any way to have multiple select in the configuration panel
Unfortunately not because it would be too complex to manage.
Think about Windows Explorer and its treenode view. Does it allow to use the multiple selection? Of course not.
With Explorer MS decided to split the problem in two: you have the treenode view on the left that contains only folders and the files and folders detail view on the right. In the right box you can do a multiple selection only because the elements, the files and the folders, are all contained inside the same parent which can be another folder, an archive file or a disk. But a multiple selection inside different parent is never possible and I don't know any other program allowing that because the effects will be to difficult to manage or even unpredictable.
SyMenu mixed the two explorer views in one only: you can see folders (SyContainers) and files (SyItems) in a single treenode. It's a more practical way to represent a node hierarchy but this came to a price: no multiple selection is available.
Maybe in a future far far away, I can implement a multiple selection inside the same parent but is not a priority now.
If you have a lot of item and understand a bit the xml format you can try to manually edit the configuration file, but I don't recommend that. If you want to try the same, do a backup before.
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lupusbalo Posts: 77
22/04/2016
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Hy Gianluca thks for your answer!
- Categories:
I may be wrong, but categories are only viewed in the update panel!
.. they are not viewed in the Main left panel and neither for each individual element (which I could understand cause it needs a reversed index)
I realized that I didn't explain myself very well:
there are dozens and dozens of programs in a flat list which (I think) make it difficult to select on for execution...so
Any catagories would be great!!
What I'd like to do is "ease navigation in the left panel and group elements in containers/folders/categories/ whatever you name them.
I thought existing gategories in the different suites could play a role
I had a look in the xml files but ..... I'm too lazy to start this huged editing task   - Multiple select
OK understood!!
(BTW Freecommander can select multiple items in a "right panel" from different sources as soon are you are using a "flat view")
And .... again ..............thks for this great software!
edited by lupusbalo on 22/04/2016
edited by lupusbalo on 22/04/2016
edited by lupusbalo on 22/04/2016
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Gianluca Administrator Posts: 1274
26/04/2016
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You can add a program instructing SyMenu to automatically create a folder using the program category's name.
http://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SPSFormAdd
If you prefer a different organization compared to the proposed categories/folders name you can surely re-organize the installed programs through the configuration form creating or renaming a proper SyContainer.
lupusbalo wrote:
Freecommander can select multiple items in a "right panel" from different sources as soon are you are using a "flat view")
Well also FreeCommander considers too difficult to implement the multi selection from a hierarchical structure and simplifies the problem. In fact when you choose the Flat view (Plain view according to my version) you are viewing all the folders and files starting from a certain root in a flat mode. In this way the starting multi selection problem is simplified but only try to move all the files and folders from the plain view to a parent subfolder and count all the errors you'll get: "The destination folder is a subfolder of the source folder", "The source and destination file names are the same", besides if you get more than one file with the same name in more than one subfolder, that's a perfectly legal thing in Windows, you'll get even a confirmation for the overwriting file.
I'm not saying that this is the wrong way to solve the problem, but I'm saying it's a really complex way to operate.
My choose will be to allow the multiselection of SyContainers (folders) and SyItems (files) from a single container. I think this approach is easier to understand for a user. But as I already told you this is a really low priority task.
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lupusbalo Posts: 77
26/04/2016
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- Adding with "Category Folder"
I missed that one
Gosh...............   .
.. and as you said 
- Multi select
OK understood
Lupusbalo
edited by lupusbalo on 26/04/2016
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