Previously when clicking an item lower in the list it would open the app info section, also, the clicked item appeared at the top of the window as it would've been hidden by the app info covering it. Now it doesn't move to the top of the window and instead remains hidden, making you scroll down to see it. Is this intended behaviour now?

when viewing your own Suite's, the Refresh button changes function and becomes a 'Recheck this Suite's sps files' button

I am confused though, you say that the slider is global, so how do you disable a single Suite? That lovely heart icon has disappeared!

Would it be simpler to just check on startup as most apps do? Or is this overkill?

do you have any definitive plan yet? Or even a rough plan?

For starters, is the SPS Manager going to be web based like Google, or app based, like how it is now, just implemented differently?

Is it possible to place the Tooltip where you want? If so, May I suggest above-right of the cursor. Then it's out of the way and can be seen unobscured.

Yes, perfectly.
Is your interval slider set to 1 day? Otherwise your check will happen when the interval is reached. If it is, please go to the _Cache folder and check the name of the only file available. It should be 20170502.sps.zip.

Sorry I misunderstood your question before. The definition update is per suite, but the slider interval is a common setting. It was too heavy to implement a "per suite" attribute in this version. Maybe for the next? Or probably I will join the suites in a single one modifying the search filters as we already agreed. Who knows!?!

[the grid lines]Probably an option is more consistent than your other proposals but remember that I want to change everything in the SPS Manager design. So again who knows what the future will be?

Usually the tooltips appear near the mouse pointer

I've just opened the SPS Manager expecting it to auto-check for updates, but it hasn't, am I right in thinking that is how it works?

If this function is per Suite, shouldn't the slider change to display the relevant info?

[...] maybe an option to remove them [the grid lines]?

One other thing that really is annoying, I may have mentioned this before, when a tooltip appears under the cursor, you can no longer scroll and have to move the mouse in order to carry on. Obviously this is only when the names are truncated, but gets in the way of smooth functionality of the app.

I'll check this tomorrow, to be sure.
I know it didn't check as the three green dots didn't show up until I clicked the Update button. Also, once the update had been checked, there were new updates available.

Not sure if this is just me, but I think it would be more ergonomical if the Update, Apply and those other buttons would be best suited between the Search functions and the Bin and Exit buttons.

One other thing, the info tip for the Update button say this function is per Suite, but it seems to act globally as it doesn't change when you switch suite tabs.

Excuse me, Gian, but the UAC shield over the icon ¡works now in the beta!

sl23 wrote:

Didn't auto check on start up though! But did check other suites when I clicked their tabs

Can you explain me better? How do you know it didn't check the main suite? Have you checked the file in the _Cache folder?

IMHO all the suggestions for a proper implementation of the UAC rules inside the UI are a bit confusing... or maybe I am too limited to understand the usefulness of all these shades.
I want to evaluate if a deeper implementation for SyMenu is really a need or not.
For sure I won't hide items with an option unless this option is tied with the current machine name. A similar feature is available for the Autoexec on start and on quit but it's a huge work to follow these shema and I'm not sure it worths.
So great cue but low priority!

if for example, I set the auto-update to 1day, When does the check occur? On first startup of that day? Then it gets ignored until the next day?

Didn't auto check on start up though! But did check other suites when I clicked their tabs

Well your scenario is not the only possible one.
Think about this one: you work with a normal user even if you have the credential for an administrative access. When you want to execute something in elevated mode you can do it with the Run As option. So you need to see all the programs regardless your current logged user.

1. The previous layout was neater.

2. Auto trash may not be such a great idea. I have been saved several times by this great backup system.

3. Love the trash tooltip idea.

4. Good point about Remove App, didn't realise that.

5. My intention for the drive bar was to simply be shortened a few pixels so it's right hand edge would be in line with the App descriptions right hand edge.

will you be adding the Bin size info next to the icon still?

do we really need the option to remove an app?

the drive bar would be more aesthetically pleasing if it were the same width as the App Description above it [...] and changing the colour to a light blue to match the rest of the 'theme.'

lupusbalo wrote:

BUT what bothers me a lot is that I'm tired of been suggested some apps I definetly don't want to install/and/or update i'd like something to "say that to SPS manager" (such as "do not check for updates/install)" (defaulted to "check" obviously)
But I suspect I could make a best use of the "status options" may be i missed something .......???

Yes you probably did. You can force the system to ignore the check on some suites.
https://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuManual.aspx#SPSMonitoring

edited by lupusbalo on 31/03/2017

Oh OH!!! a miracle occured!! just right now!
Trying to reproduce more clearly my point and give you some screenshots .....
I deleted ..AGAIN UnrealCommanderx86
Then started sps manager (get new apps) and .......
For the 1rst time since ....... many weeks
I was not proposed the x86 version any more!!!
(Symenu V5.10.5288)
for your info, Unrealcommacer was just an example I dont use it (but have it for some "other explorers" demos in my workshops)

so let's time past to see what happen next
I think there had been a similar post of someone here

BUT what bothers me a lot is that I'm tired of been suggested some apps I definetly don't want to install/and/or update i'd like something to "say that to SPS manager" (such as "do not check for updates/install)" (defaulted to "check" obviously)
But I suspect I could make a best use of the "status options" may be i missed something .......???

Re: Exit button,
Ok I understand that you want to keep it, I don't understand why when a window has a close button. Is there a difference? Why is it necessary to have an exit and a close button? Is it an accessibility issue? How about adding it to the context menu? If not, how about reducing it's height?

Re: Sorting,
Search by dev!! AARRGGHH!!! I hate search!
Seriously though, the main reason is that it's slower. If there was a dev column you simply click it and you can find all nirsoft apps. But to find them with search means clicking search field, checking the right boxes are checked above it, typing in 'nirsoft' and click search button. Then you only have the nirsoft apps displayed, nothing else. So, to see other apps means deleting search field and clicking search again.
It's all a bit convoluted! A dev column makes it much easier and faster in the long run.

Wow!! That looks neater :-)

May I suggest that you remove the Exit button for more space? Why exactly does this exist when the window has a close button?

Also, this implementation is perfect, apart from the list height when display app details. Can you please expand the height of the entire window to allow more of the list to be displayed please? Currently I find it too small and your proposal reduces the current state!!
Just checked and the current window size can be adjusted and remembered. If that stays, then this request is unnecessary.

Another suggestion, make the Empty Trash and Update apps real buttons instead of link lookalikes. And place those on the right hand side one above the other inline with the search functions and other buttons.

The Update app definitions button could simply be renamed to Update Apps or Update Check.

Not sure if it's better, but maybe remove the context menu and have all those options as small square buttons underneath the app info section on right? Then they can be seen. What do you think about this?

If you merge everything to a single suite, does that affect our own personal suites?

What is meant by "unable to scan more than 1000 items, search is only chance to find something"? What is scan, when is it performed?

Also, might be worth adding a column to the SPS Manager to allow sorting by developer?

Oh, and a minor point, the two field boxes for App Publisher and Contact Reviewer aren't the same width

I'm shocked!!! I didn't even know you added a context menu to the SPS Manager!!!

Thank you Gian, hope I influenced you a little here ;-)

• May I suggest that you remove the Exit button for more space? Why exactly does this exist when the window has a close button? Is there a real world difference to the user?
  
  
• Also, this implementation is perfect, apart from the list height when display app details. Can you please expand the height of the entire window to allow more of the list to be displayed please? Currently I find it too small and your proposal reduces the current state!!
  Just checked and the current window size can be adjusted and remembered. If that stays, then this request is unnecessary.

• Another suggestion, make the Empty Trash and Update apps real buttons instead of link lookalikes. And place those on the right hand side one above the other inline with the search functions and other buttons. These are important buttons, so best kept at the top. Removal of the exit button would help space-wise with this.
  The Update app definitions button could simply be renamed to Update Apps or Update Check.
  
  
• Not sure if it's better, but maybe remove the context menu and have all those options as small square buttons underneath the app info section on right? Then they can be seen. What do you think about this?
  
  
• If you merge everything to a single suite, does that affect our own personal suites? What is meant by "unable to scan more than 1000 items, search is only chance to find something"? What is scan, when is it performed?
  Also, might be worth adding a column to the SPS Manager to allow sorting by developer?
  
  
• Oh, and a minor point, the two field boxes for App Publisher and Contact Reviewer aren't the same width, a little adjustment to make the latter wider would be better.