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<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 14:10:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[I couldn't find the topic for SyMenu Orphan Icons Cleaner, which also needs some updating too. If there's anything I can also do with that, let me know.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Are you able to guide me with setting up the source code for me to work on it? I understand your time-limited, but if you can offer some guidance on getting the source into an editor where I can problem solve, amend, even update and then compile without your assistance, then I am willing to do that for you. Would be an honour and a pleasure to help you out. Can't promise anything, but I will give it a go. Once it's ready, I can then pass it back for your inspection and testing. Hopefully that isn't too intensive, time-wise I mean.<br/><br/>What do you say?]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 14:08:10 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Well, I realized that I never gave proper closure to this thread. Anyway, VVV is still alive and kicking, but now he’s playing in a different league than the SyMenu community (he’s in the tough league now, the real‑life one 🙂).<br/><br/>He handed the source code over to me, but unfortunately mrx gave up because PAT is too complex and not very well written, so it’s too steep a project to start with.<br/><br/>I can’t take it on myself either, so I’m still waiting for someone new who might want to help with this project. In my opinion it’s a really interesting topic, and there’s room for tons of improvement. If I weren’t so overloaded, I’d be happy to work on it myself.<br/><br/>Let me recap everything:<br/>- PAT needs to be updated: user agent, UI typos, architecture (x86 → x64)<br/>- PAT should be converted from its current language (VB.NET) to a more standard one (C#)<br/>- There’s plenty of room to improve the program’s functionality as well<br/>- We need a developer, even a young one, because I can’t manage a new project but I can supervise one<br/><br/>If you want to write a small manual, I can republish PAT including this new resource — no problem at all.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 13:59:30 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[After having designed my Rainmeter AppUpdateCheck skin, I thought more about using the PAT again.<br/>First, instructions aren't very clear, and are only available online. I would be happy to relearn it's usage and write a small text file or something for offline usage, but it needs to be included in the download. This will obviously need to be done by VVV.<br/><br/>Also, I am wondering if there's any chance the PAT app can be updated to x64 due to the continued movement in this direction by MS.<br/><br/>Thanks.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 13:30:49 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[So I try to contact VVV_Easy_Symenu by myself and after that let's see if you can be a good replacement for the PAT maintainance.]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:58:55 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hi Gian,<br/>those are two very valuable cents. <br/><br/><blockquote>I'm  quite an expert with this kind of thing and I can help you.</blockquote><br/>Thank you, I would like to take you up on your offer. I'm just afraid that this is beyond my competence, even if the source code is available.<br/><br/>I completely missed the fact that symenu must also have a user agent. I think that if PET synchronizes it's with symenu's, everything should work fine.<br/><br/><i>edited by mrx on 12/11/2024</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:44:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hi mrx.<br/><br/>For SyMenu and SPS Builder I use an old FF user agent and a recent Wget user agent.<br/>Usually  there's no problem downloading anything with any kind of user agent  unless it's too old but effectively you can have problems even with a  recent user agent using SyMenu Published App Track (PAT) that presents itself as a sort  of browser.<br/><br/>Plus the part where you hacked PAT is interesting but quite useless.<br/><br/>If  I was in your shoes I'd try to ask the author the source code. If he  still has it, I guess he will give it to you with zero problems. When  you have the source code it's easier to make any modification and it  could be a good thing to implement new features too. What about a  rolling user agent? So when you don't succeed in downloading a page  with the first one you can try the second and third ones.<br/>And  even if VVV_Easy_Symenu has no more the source code, under his  permission, you can decompile the exe and have the source again. I'm  quite an expert with this kind of thing and I can help you.<br/><br/>It's only my two cents.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:28:29 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Update:<br/>I was able to view the source code of the PAT and noticed two errors that I made in the last manipulated exe file posted here. So here is the correction.<br/>All-clear: These errors only affect the strings - the program code is NOT affected!<br/><br/>_________________<br/><br/><br/><br/>Hi, it's me again.<br/><br/>The user agent string of SyMenu Published App Track is already quite old, which is why sourceforge.net has not been delivering web pages to SyMenu Published App Track for some time.<br/><br/>To work around the problem, I used a hex editor to change the string in the EXE file. Since then, everything has been working as usual again. Even a little better: some download sources were previously unavailable. If you are interested, you can download the manipulated EXE file below.<br/><br/>The old strings<br/><ul><li>    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0</li><li>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko<br/></li><li>Wget/1.19.1</li></ul>has been replaced by these:<br/><ul><li>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) Chrome/132.0.0.0</li><li>(likewise)</li><li>Wget/1.25.0</li></ul><br/>The missing characters at the end have been filled with spaces.<br/><br/><ul><li>PSPublishedAppTrack.exe <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/qvhqvs1x31sjnoybmbgsd/SPSPublishedAppTrack.exe?rlkey=67nzhv76w5gosltv0inpglvel&amp;st=n945mmna&amp;dl=0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/qvhqvs1x31sjnoybmbgsd/SPSPublishedAppTrack.exe?rlkey=67nzhv76w5gosltv0inpglvel&amp;st=n945mmna&amp;dl=0</a></li></ul><br/><br/><i>edited by mrx on 10/11/2024</i><br/><br/><i>edited by mrx on 18/01/2025</i><br/><br/><i>edited by mrx on 18/01/2025</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:06:13 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Just in case someone has the same problem as me:<br/><br/>PAT needs a certain minimum desktop resolution at every startup to build the GUI correctly. In my tests it was 1440x900. The display of my notebook is only 1366x768 and the result looks like the attached screenshot.<br/><br/>I almost went crazy before I got the idea to test PAT on my external monitor. The GUI is displayed correctly and can now be enlarged and also reduced to any size.<br/><br/><br/>Apart from that it is a handy, well integrated and easy to understand tool. Thanks for that.]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:16:43 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>CHANGELOG:<br/></b>2018.03.01-V.5.2: Corrected little bugs of change the colors in second track or change the strings in edit track.]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:44:01 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>CHANGELOG:</b><br/>2018.02.27-V.5.1: Download size test improvements (now works with SourceForge).]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:11:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[New versión attached in the first post. Now needed .NET Framework v.4.6.1 to run but there is not too much users of this program so I think this is not a big problema. Thanks Gian for your help with the TLS protocol. In few days I publish the new sps version because I have some problems with the fórum máximum file attached  length.<br/><br/>'<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>'2018.02.25-V.5.0: TLS 1.2 protocol supported (but now needed .NET Framework v.4.6.1). Download size test improvements.<br/>.<br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 25/02/2018</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:58:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Excellent, thank you for the update will test it as soon as I get time.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:29:56 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA['<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>'2017.02.26-V.4.0: Added menu bar and config file ConfigPAT.txt. Now Help opens forum topic.<br/><br/><br/>If works perhaps the last version ... and the forum attach capability don't admit more <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 alt="smile" />]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 12:56:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[OK that's excellent, thanks.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:06:46 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thank you for yours works.<br/>By default, PAT charge "SPS_Published_Track_File.txt" if exits, and after try "SPS_Published_Track_File_example.txt" that always exists.<br/>If you change " sl23_PAT.txt " to ""SPS_Published_Track_File.txt" PAT charge it by default.<br/>The personalized name of file and size of windows are in relation with the ConfigPAT file included in the TODO list.<br/>Don't worry it will arrive.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:53:30 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Strange! The SPS Manager performed the update no problem, YAY!<br/>Excellent job with the update, fixing the resize bug too, marvellous!<br/>Can't thank you enough for your work, this will hopefully make things so much easier.<br/>I'm only half way through sorting the data out for my SPS tracks, but seems to work well so far.<br/><br/>Also could you set the default window width smaller please. Personally, I prefer about two thirds of the current width.<br/>Either set a default or remember window size setting would be suitable. Thanks<br/><br/>Oh, just one minor thing, at least I hope it is from your point of view too, is there anyway you could add ability to select a file to auto load on startup?<br/>Everytime I startup PAT, I have to load my sl23_PAT.txt track file, would be a great time saver.<br/>Thank you.<br/><i>edited by sl23 on 11/02/2017</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:54:46 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Ah didn't think about first post! Doh! AND I forgot about that button! Doh!<br/><br/>Thanks Gian]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:02:36 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Gianluca</title>
<description><![CDATA[VVV_Easy_Symenu already puts the download link on the first post of this thread.<br/><br/>Anyway as a rule of thumb, when you have any kind of problem with the SPS Manager built in download feature, you already have the download url available clicking the little green arrow in the bottom left corner of the form.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:29:04 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the enhancements, can't wait to check it out.<br/>I am having trouble downloading via the SPS Manager.<br/>Could you supply a download link please.<br/>Cheers]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:52:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA['<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>'2017.02.05-V.3.0: Using contextual menu and allow several Edit form.<br/>And other little improvements ¡Enjoy!]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:16:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[I see your point. <br/>I don't mind opening more than one instance of sps builder, it's just all those bloody windows drive me nuts! <br/><br/>So, Gian, how would you feel adding tabs to sps builder? I think that way if an sps file is open, calling it again just focuses the already open file, same as synwrite does with text files. <br/><br/>I mean, these days, any app worth using has tabs, file managers, web, browsers, text editors, word processors, even some launchers. <br/><br/>The main benefit for me is that it's a pain in the ass looking for the window you want!!! I function better with tabbed windows, though I realise others prefer windows, I just can't be bothered looking through them so use single instances of non-tabbed apps. <br/><br/>What do you think?]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 13:19:04 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[My two cents on the topic of the same SPS opened more than once by the SPS Builder.<br/><br/>It's not on PAT but it's on the SPS Builder. <br/>PAT could track any SPS opened from inside itself but the problem here is that SPS Builder is a completely separate software and it could be opened by the user in a separate context. So PAT can't have a complete view of all the SPS currently opened in several SPS Builder instances.<br/><br/>IMHO the utility to have multiple SPS Builder instances at the same time is terrific. When I update my suite I usually open three SPS Builder and while one is downloading and installing a program, I work with another instance. Or when I have to test a x86 and x64 versions I work with both, while the third instance is working on something else. I agree when VVV_Easy_Symenu tells that SPS is a technology for advanced users only, anyway, implementing a feature that checks any other SPS Builder instance and alerts if the same SPS is opened somewhere else is possible and I will do at sometimes.<br/><br/>I see another problem instead. <br/>PAT works off line reading the SyMenu Suite _Cache folder, while the most correct way to work would be reading the SPS online. But UGM for first is not ready for this kind of interaction. <br/>So my request is that when PAT opens you could check the _Cache content and if the marker file is older than one hour, alert the user to update it. <br/>It helps a lot to maintain the off line files aligned with the online ones.<br/>You could also force a refresh from PAT but it's a bit more tricky.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:19:49 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your quick response, no need to thank me, ultimately, it's a selfish act, as is everything in life ;-)<br/>I do enjoy it though. Anyway onto those points...<br/><ul><li>limit to single instance - I can understand your point of view, others may prefer to have single instance? Hence my suggestion for calling via SyMenu. I'm afraid I'm having a little trouble understanding your English, generally it is very good but some parts are a little tough for me to understand the meaning of. The last two sentences here are an example, would you mind please elaborating your intention, sorry, might be me!</li><li>same SPS file open twice - the danger here though is that you save one instance to UGM, leave the two open and work on more then forget which of the two is saved. If you save the wrong one to UGM then you undo your work. I suppose the sensible thing to do is to close both and reopen from UGM, but I think there should be a limitation.</li><li>Auto load track URL - sorry, I realised my error here. But I thought perhaps you could use the download link from SPS files, then remove the part that contains the actual ***.exe/***.zip/***.file? Don't know if that is possible, just an idea. Not really that important, probably, but may be worth a look?</li><li>Context menu in webpage - Thanks, I knew about the shortcuts, just that some of us prefer the mouse to fiddly keys! ;-)</li></ul>Thank you for your time and your grand efforts, look forward to the next installment :-)<br/><br/><i>edited by sl23 on 09/03/2026</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 11:39:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your interest and help, sl23.<br/>The contextual menu is a great idea, it allows me resolve the TODO question of:<br/>"If the edit form remains not modal when I switch the form and return to the main one, and press the Edit selected button, the edit form should pop up again."<br/>Now the "supposed by user" : if checked, if selected are overloaded. And the Delete Track action in the edit form is not evident. With a contextual menu I think it will be more clear.<br/>The other things:<br/><ul><li>"limit to single instance SPS Builder" I don't agree (even SyMenu allows open several instances of SPS Builder). PAT is for advanced users and is very useful to have several instances for copy/paste. In the TODO list there is a point of make possible several instances in the Edit form. And finally, is easy for the user limit itself.</li><li>"open more than one instance of the same SPS file, not really a good idea" I agree but I don't know how to limit without a complicated code. Perhaps with the contextual menu will be more difficult open twice. Well, the unique good file is in UGM.</li><li>"auto load the Track URL straight from the relevant SPS files". Really the Track URL don't have relation with the SPS URL's (Publisher web site or download Url). I will study to auto load the "Publisher web site" if not Track URL present in new Rebuild Apps-&gt; to the TODO list.</li><li>"Could you add a context menu for copy/paste in the webpage section?" I don't know but you have the default windows short keys Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V. Interesting but not priority.</li><li><b>EDIT 2:</b> You have detected some errors. Thank you very much, you are a very good beta tester. I want change the Edit Form to allow it several instances and not navigate between the selected items. I think is more useful because you can copy and paste easily and without download the web every time. But it takes some work of programming. ¡Stay tuned!.</li></ul>Thank you again, sl23.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 11:11:59 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Just a minor error, you spelt "Double click" wrong, you spelt it as "Doble"<br/><br/>Works a treat though thank you.<br/><br/>I have another idea for further improvement/automation, but will wait until I get to grips with this thing first!<br/><br/><b>EDIT 1:</b><br/><ul><li>How is SPS PAT calling the SPS Builder? Is it direct or via SyMenu?<br/>It's just that I would prefer only a single instance to save having to close all those windows! Is that possible?<br/>If called via SyMenu, then SyMenu can limit to single instance, this would allow it to be user defined rather than set in stone.<br/>If called directly, can you change it?<br/><br/></li><li>It is possible to open more than one instance of the same SPS file, not really a good idea.<br/><br/></li><li>I've also noticed that you can open an SPS via a double click of either the left or right mouse buttons.<br/>Would it be possible to have Left Double Click to open in SPS Builder and Right Double Click to Edit Selected, or vice versa?<br/>Or maybe a context menu might be a better solution, it would allow for future expansion?<br/><br/></li><li>Would it be possible to auto load the Track URL straight from the relevant SPS files?<br/>Maybe too much to ask? Just helps speed up the process.<br/><br/></li><li>Could you add a context menu for copy/paste in the webpage section?<br/></li></ul><br/>Just a few ideas for you to peruse, hope the feedback isn't too harsh, it's not meant that way. I hope to help improve the app. I understand if you feel some things aren't worth the hassle to implement, just some ideas that's all.<br/><br/>Thanks again.<br/><br/><b>EDIT 2:</b><br/>When resizing the Edit Track window from the right hand edge, it moves the bottom four buttons relative to the right hand edge. But the search field stays in place. So making the window smaller causes the buttons on the bottom left to disappear and the two bottom right buttons move left and cover up the search field.<br/>I'm on windows 10 if that makes a difference? I noticed the help screen has different buttons so perhaps you're on an older OS?<br/><br/>Maybe you could reduce the button widths, no need for them to be so wide?<br/>Perhaps have a toolbar at top of window?<br/>Or maybe add these options to a central context menu somehow?<br/><br/>Even though some bugs exist, you've done a great job with this and I for one am very grateful, so, thank you for this great addition. <br/><i><br/><i>edited by sl23 on 05/02/2017</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:22:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Gian, the "Ignore en Update" files works fine and the copy in the _Trash may be enough but I think that the user must know that this update is clean.<br/>For instance, normally I clean the Trash immediately and if I know that this is a Clean Update I will wait a little.<br/>The problem is balance of the "volume" that the alert must be (in the SPS status, in the update windows, with a message box, ...).]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 15:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the update. I look forward to testing this out.]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 13:58:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Message from Gianluca</title>
<description><![CDATA[The alert for a clean update will become annoying because having a clean update along with the need to maintain files is rare. I could think about a system to maintain some files in case of a clean update (scripting). So you have not to alert the users.<br/><i>edited by Gianluca on 03/02/2017</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 08:16:37 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[As promised, now v.2.0.0.0 only in SyMenu Suite App flavour and with SPS Builder edit in double click.<br/>Warning: This version needs a auto SPS Builder Clean Update (change of the Main exe name). The script only preserves the *.txt file so if you have write your PAT file with other extension save it before update (and better use the auto load name 'SPS_Published_Track_File.txt' and always with *.txt extension ....)<br/>Note for Gian: SyMenu don't alert when it make a Clean Update. Perhaps would not be bad idea to alert for avoid loosing files. <br/>'<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>'2017.02.03-V.2.0: Futherly only SPS App flavour (not Launcher needed) named SPS Published App Track (PAT).<br/>'                                               Added SPS Builder call with local sps file copy (temporaly located in "SyMenuSuite\_Trash\_TmpPAT").<br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 03/02/2017</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 22:37:10 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[That's great news. Thank you so much for listening and adopting my request. I look forward to the new release.<br/><br/>I do need some help using it though!]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 08:49:26 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Well, it seems that I am the only user for the PAT (I adopt proudly the name, thank you, sl23) script flavour and it doesn't work very well.<br/>Really it has not sense that SyBuilder was a App and PAT a scritp so the next version 2.0, with SyBuilder conexion, will be only in app flavour.<br/>And then I wil try to make it not modal. Thanks for your opinion.]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 19:23:19 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Same here. Is it really necessary to have the app and plugin? After all the sps builder is an app, only downloaded by those requiring updates for their own apps.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:02:01 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Yes. I had the same problem when using PAT as a plugin. <br/>Instead the folder resolution works when I use it in stand alone mode.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:13:45 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your input Gian. <br/>I realise working with a year old file could cause issues. There is possibility of many changes to the functioning of the app, the dev may have improved or even made things worse in some respects.<br/><br/>But yes, I felt the same, using the local symenu cache was best.<br/><br/>Look forward to this great new feature ;-)<br/><br/>Oh, Gian, I forgot to ask, did you experience the same issue with the PAT plugin?]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:58:51 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[The plugin folder name is "Plugin".<br/><br/>My two cents on the interaction with SPS Builder topic.<br/>Your b) solution can absolutely work. <br/>As sl23 says it's a matter of changing a bit of fields even in a very old file. <br/>Well the a) solution will be the more logical one because it is always a danger to change an outdated SPS but, if you work with PAT (BTW nice acronym) the way it's thought, you should always point to the _Cache folder under the SyMenu control and there you can't find a year old file.<br/>So I think it could work.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:45:22 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply.<br/><br/>I'm afraid you are being too literal with my post about the plugin path.<br/>I was posting from my phone so couldn't remember the pathname perfectly. But it is the default path. <br/><br/>Column selection can be handy but if it's too much hassle, then don't worry about that. <br/><br/>Double clicking to open sps builder would be a great help. Either you open an sps from a users cloud or from the cache folder is irrelevant. Either would give the sps file. It shouldn't matter if you loaded am out of date file a year old, you still should only need to change 4 sections of it. <br/><br/>Thank you again for taking time to think of my requests. If you need more clarification on that bug just let me know. ;-)]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:49:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[¡You have given me a joy! The people don't give "a lot of" return of the app (well, I used it frequently and I know that is a program for a reduced number of users:<br/><br/>Åke Engelbrektson, Euphoria, FileVoyager, Luis Neves, Richard Lloyd, Shri Ganesh, sl23, SterJo Software, SyMenu, SyMenu Suite, tpan, VVV_Easy_Symenu, ZeDingo<br/><br/><br/>Return to your questions:<br/>1) "Problems using the plugin version": You write that your folder is symenu/plugin<b>s</b>/ but the standart SyMenu folder is /Plugin (upper case and not plural) (see Gian topic <a href="http://www.ugmfree.it/Forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=71" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Plugin summary</a>) so the script no detected the folder but the plugin is detected by SyMenu. So, question for Gian ¿what names are allowed for the SyMenu pluging folder? I can adapt the program to all possibilities.<br/>2) "allow selection of columns to show/hide": Well, I add the request to the TODO list but I think that is complicated to program and it must be associated to a config file. BTW I haven't need it never.<br/>3) "the ability to double click on an apps name in the list to open that sps in the SPS Builder app": This is a very good idea, is a normal use when a updated is detected. I think to ways of do it:<br/>a) Edit with  SPS Builder downloading from UGM: Is the best one but I think that it's very complicated to synchronize the two apps: get the username and the password, etc.<br/>b) Edit the local sps copy: It's a copy but is the same that use SysAppTrack and it very easy to pass the file path to SyMenu Builder in an argument (in fact, I tried an ¡it seems works! ¡Gian had already anticipated it!) If Gian has nothing against "First" place in the TODO List.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2017 22:23:20 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[One request I would like to see added to PAT is the ability to double click on an apps name in the list to open that sps in the SPS Builder app. This would make the whole process much more integrated and easier to open, edit and update the relevant sps files. <br/><br/>Would this be possible? <br/><br/>I direct this question to both Cesar and Gian, as it may involve both of you, or one may know of limitations unknown to the other. <br/><br/>Thanks<br/><br/>Edit ~<br/>Another request of value would be to allow the default track file to be changed to a user specified one. Or open last used file. <br/><br/>On another note, it may well be far superior way of working to allow sps to be fully edited via this plugin/app. If the above request is possible, double click a name to open in sps builder, perhaps the way forward would be to integrate the two apps more thoroughly. I realise this is probably a major task, but would ultimately make the whole sps process easier to create, manage and update. Be interested to hear your thoughts on this.<br/><i>edited by sl23 on 27/01/2017</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 12:39:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[I am having problems using the plugin version. Whenever I try sorting the list by any specific user I get at error saying the plugin needs to be installed into the default path. Ie into symenu/plugins/ but that is where the plugin is installed.<br/><br/>I would like to suggest some improvements if I may, at the moment I'm away from PC so can't give any detailed requests yet.<br/><br/>A basic request would be to allow selection of columns to show/hide.]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:21:34 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>2017.01.11-V.1.4b: Corrected the bug saving files with the pluging execute with Launcher (in the SPS app flavour)]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:30:43 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA['<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>' 2017.01.05-V.1.3: Added Tooltips.<br/>'                   Manage sps Or zip _Cache SPS Suite files. (SyMenu version superior To Version 5.07.6190 [2016.12.13])<br/>'                   Added SPS Publisher column (so the ancient ~SPSPublisherName~ becomes To ~SPSTrackerName~).<br/>'                   Allows several SPS Publisher names in the SPS Tracker Name<br/><br/><br/><b>Important Notes:</b> As you can see in the changelog, the configuration file has change a little. You have two solutions:<br/>1) Replace in the first line of the configuration file  the ancient ~SPSPublisherName~ by ~SPSTrackerName~,<br/>for instance, ~SPSPublisherName~VVV_Easy_Symenu~/SPSPublisherName~ by ~PSTrackerName~VVV_Easy_Symenu~/SPSTrackerName~<br/>or<br/>2) In the first run with the ancient configuration file, write the correspondent SPS Publisher  in the empty rectangle. Save in the new format.<br/>I detected some problems (for instance, saving files) with the pluging execute with Launcher (in the SPS app flavour). I recommended use in pluging flavour just to solve the problem -&gt; <b> CORRECTED in version 1.4b</b><br/>BTW: I'm open to change the flavour of the pluging and build it in true exe (not need the launcher) but this drives to loose the script flavour. We are a little number of users, we can do a poll.<br/>.<br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 05/01/2017</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 11/01/2017</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 17:04:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thank you very much sl23.<br/>Even if it's a program for a reduced number of user (only for the SPS Publisher) I made it for help Gian and me too. All collaboration it's welcome.<br/>'<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>'2016.12.18-V.1.2: Now in SPS stand alone program too as: SyMenu Published App Track (Others - Specialized Editors). Thanks Gian.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2016 09:57:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Shame this can't be more integrated into SPS Builder or even SPS Manager, even better integrated with both!!!<br/>Great plugin VVV ;-)]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:55:36 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[And now you are in the FAQ.<br/>If you like we can expand the topic in the FAQ too.<br/>Let me know.]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 18:28:49 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thank you very much, Gian.<br/>At last, for me, this script are very usefull and save me a lot of time (well, after make it ).<br/>It's a honour be integrated in the FAQ, and I have adapted the messages to your proposals (except the launcher, it doesn't work now).<br/>In the second message I have wrote the Changelog, the Know issues and the ToDo List or Demanded Features. I hope that this can help to get better the script with all people help.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2016 10:28:45 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hooray VVV_Easy_Symenu. <br/>The plugin works like a charm. You did a really great job!<br/><br/>What do you think if I add this thread as a new FAQ here? <a href="http://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuSPSBuilder.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ugmfree.it/SyMenuSPSBuilder.aspx</a><br/>So it will be officially integrated in the procedure to maintain the SPS.<br/><br/>A suggestion for you. The download link should be in the first post to find it immediately. Read this one to have a reference (http://www.ugmfree.it/Forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=85)<br/><br/>Another proposal. Why don't you include the exe launcher too? In this way the plugin can work along with SyMenu or stand alone too. Think about that.<br/><br/>Thank you very much again for your terrific work!<br/><b><br/></b>]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 08:41:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<i><br/></i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 12/11/2016</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:19:42 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<i><br/></i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 12/11/2016</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2016 21:42:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA['<b>CHANGELOG</b>:<br/>'2018.03.01-V.5.2: Corrected little bugs of change the colors in second track or change the strings in edit track.<br/>'2018.02.27-V.5.1: Download size test improvements (now works with SourceForge).<br/>'2018.02.25-V.5.0: TLS 1.2 protocol supported (but now needed .NET Framework v.4.6.1). Download size test improvements.<br/>'2017.02.26-V.4.0: Added menu bar and config file ConfigPAT.txt. Now Help opens forum topic.<br/>'2017.02.05-V.3.0: Using contextual menu and allow several Edit form.<br/>'2017.02.03-V.2.0: Futherly only SPS App flavour (not Launcher needed) named SPS Published App Track (PAT).<br/>'                                               Added SPS Builder call with local sps file copy (temporaly located in "SyMenuSuite\_Trash\_TmpPAT").<br/>'2017.01.11-V.1.4b: Corrected the bug saving files with the pluging execute with Launcher (in the SPS app flavour) <br/>'2017.01.09-V.1.4: Showed version in the window title. Added more search options. Corrected some bugs.<br/>'2017.01.05-V.1.3: Added Tooltips.<br/>'                   Manage sps Or zip _Cache SPS Suite files. (SyMenu version superior To Version 5.07.6190 [2016.12.13])<br/>'                   Added SPS Publisher column (so the ancient ~SPSPublisherName~ becomes To ~SPSTrackerName~).<br/>'                   Allows several SPS Publisher names in the SPS Tracker Name<br/>'2016.12.18-V.1.2: Now in SPS stand alone program too as: SyMenu Published App Track (Others - Specialized Editors). Thanks Gian.<br/>'2016.11.10-V.1.2: Corrected some bugs. Full automatic SyMenu plugin detection.<br/>'2016.10.10-V.1.1: Added App Icon, Version and Release Date. Corrected some bugs. Know issue: Not automatic SyMenu plugin detection.<br/>'2016.10.02-V.0.1: First published version.<br/>'<b>ISSUES</b>:<br/>'1)In tracking operation, the Listview refresh makes some flash, ¿Is it possible to correct? If I delete the refresh I don't see the item colour change (green or red).<br/>'2)All -TrackBlockHash- finish with '==' ¿why?<br/><b>'TODOLIST/DEMANDED FEATURES (</b>Not retained<b>)</b>:<br/>'1)Is it possible in edit form to show the page in rendered form too? Now I can see it only in plain html form. The .NET framework comes with a control which is called WebBrowser that allows you to show a rendered page. You could even embed an entire browser inside a winforms program but it's too much for our needs.<br/>'2) Auto email to the publisher in a Track Change<br/><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 10/02/2017</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 26/02/2017</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 25/02/2018</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 27/02/2018</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 01/03/2018</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:52:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Prerequisites</b><br/>SyMenu version 5.05 or higher + .NET Framework v.4.6.1<br/><br/><b>Description</b><br/>One of the tasks of the SPS publisher app is to verify the app updates.<br/>This can be done quickly by monitoring changes of the ChangeLog page or the download links page with any program.<br/>Inspired in WebMon (<a href="http://www.cmcode.co.uk/webmon/scrshots.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">screenshots</a>) by Colin Markwell, with this plugin you can easy track your SPS published apps.<br/>1) The plugin collects your SPS published apps from the SyMenuSuite\_Cache folder.<br/>2) In the plugin you can write:<br/>  • Your own Track URL (for instance to the ChangeLog page),<br/>  • The Start and Stop string of your track block<br/>3) The plugin hashes the Track Block in order to save the web "photo"<br/>4) In Track mode, it verify:<br/>  • The Track hashes modification(¿Alert of app update?)<br/>  • The download url and size (¿Is your published app ok?)<br/><br/>Nowadays, the web page protections make difficult a 100% sure verification, but I only have found 1% of false detection even in https protocol.<br/>And more ....,  if you set empty the publisher name, you can get all the SPS Suite and sort by the creation an modification file dates.<br/>By default, it charge my own SPS Published list as example.<br/><br/><b>Installation</b><br/>Present in SyMenu Program Suite.<br/><b>Help:</b><br/><br/><img src="https://www.ugmfree.it/forum/getattachment.ashx?fileid=145" border="0"><br/><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 10/02/2017</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 26/02/2017</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 25/02/2018</i><br/><i>edited by VVV_Easy_Symenu on 27/02/2018</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:50:09 GMT</pubDate>
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